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No more appliction updates and suspicious store behaviour with Vaarainjärvi [answered]

asked 2014-12-26 18:17:28 +0300

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updated 2016-08-04 15:54:16 +0300

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Could be a bug, could be a feature, could just be coincidence... But since I installed Vaarainjärvi, I have not received one single update for applications I have already installed. (Although I see new applications in the store every now and then.)

This wouldn't be so strange in itself - maybe developers just aren't as active as usual during the holiday season - but also the behaviour of the store changed compared to previous versions (including Uitukka):

Before Vaarainjärvi, when I went to the "My applications" page in the store client, I could watch the list grow as applications were sorted alphabetically. Every now and then, sometimes only after a few seconds, one of the apps would be pushed on top of the list because there was an update available.

Now, when I open "My applications", everything's right there, the list is static and doesn't give the impression of anything's being even checked for updates. Is this supposed to be a feature like "Don't confuse user with dynamic list"? (Didn't find anything about it in the release notes.) Or does it mean what it seems to say: store never checks for updates?

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Well I remember to read that the performance of the Jolla Store was improved in the release notes.. So I think this is the cause (feature) of this 'static list' behaviour. :) And regarding of not receiving updates or missing/ empty MyApps-list (which your are not experiencing as it seems) you should update your Jolla Acc credentials.

Alex ( 2014-12-26 19:05:22 +0300 )edit

Sometimes I don't trust the stores too, neither jolla nor warehouse. In such cases I use pkcon as root, pkcon refresh forces to refresh the list, pkcon update proceeds. Sometimes with surprising results, sometimes not.

Robomike ( 2014-12-26 19:47:07 +0300 )edit

@Robomike thanks for reminding me about pkcon. After a pkcon refresh I did a pkcon get-updates with the following results:

Getting updates
Waiting in queue
Refreshing software list
Enhancement     harbour-cargodock-             A two-paned filemanager.
Enhancement     sailfish-utilities-all-translations-pack-0.0.1-10.2.1.jolla.noarch      Collection of all sailfish-utilities translations in one binary rpm

So there are updates available that the store chooses to ignore. Now let's see what Jolla Store tells me when I select Cargo Dock from "My Applications":

It does not tell me about an update at the top of the page. At the bottom though, where it shows the changelogs etc., it tells me:

Version: 0.2.2
Installed: 0.2.2 
Changelog Version .....

And pkcon reveals that I have 0.2.2-1 installed while is available.

The situation is similar with sailfish-utilities-all-translations-pack: I have version sailfish-utilities-all-translations-pack-0.0.1-10.1.1 while pkcon lists sailfish-utilities-all-translations-pack-0.0.1-10.2.1 as available.

Seems like the store happily ignores all information in a Major.Minor.Patch numbering scheme that comes after the patch... so for the store client 0.2.2 is equal to

Now I know that in fact I was right and there's something wrong with the store... I still don't know, though, if I ruined the store on my device or if this is a real bug.

Do any of you have Cargo Dock installed? Can you check if Jolla Store offers an update to

ossi1967 ( 2014-12-26 21:46:18 +0300 )edit

I do not have one but Jolla store alerted me about updating 2-3 programs for 2 months i have the phone. Strange indeed.

Odorobo ( 2014-12-26 21:57:46 +0300 )edit

For me the Store informs in Cargo Docks app page: "Version: 0.2.2 Installed:", the latter being also the version number that Cargo Docs app itself reports in the About page. So, no Store probs here, at least ;) Maybe u are suffereing of some auth or connectivity problems that csuse those mismatches u reported. Anyways the Store page of Cargo Docks in my case too is strange because the Version info is lower than the Installed one..

foss4ever ( 2014-12-26 22:02:23 +0300 )edit

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answered 2014-12-27 12:31:20 +0300

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For Cargo Dock the store backend had a wrong version number, but it is fixed now. The Cargo Dock update was submitted already in June, and I think the version parsing bug has been fixed since, so this should not happen for any new applications.

The sailfish-utilities-all-translations-pack update is a known issue.

The My Applications behavior change is expected, it fetches the installed application and update information in the background now.

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The My Applications behavior change is expected

Ah, very nice. So it was a coincidence that I noticed the new "My apps" behaviour and the missing Cargo Dock update at the same time. :)

Good to know it "works as expected" and there's no problem on my side. Cargo Dock appeared as an update literally minutes ago.

ossi1967 ( 2014-12-27 12:59:03 +0300 )edit

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