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[suggestion] tablet possibility to have two kind of split-view

asked 2015-01-30 00:45:30 +0300

cemoi71 gravatar image

updated 2015-02-10 12:51:21 +0300

Hello sailors,

just an idea that i'll find nice to have. You know all that jolla have released the perk of split-view for viewing 2 apps in parallel. And i want to suggest an option for the concept.

How do you think if it could be possible to activate the split and have the choice between two kind of splitting.

The one would be the half-split view. Both apps are displayed one beside the other one.

The other would be a kind of pip-view (Picture In Picture from tv-devices ). Means one take place on the whole screen, and the other one take in a little rectangle on a choosen corner (left or right below corner, or left or right above corner).
wikipedia Picture in Picture article

In our case could be more SiS (Screen in Screen)...

Please, understand that is not a duplicate of this thread link text. My motivation is to bring more ideas around the concept, more user-friendly possibilities, other kind of views for the split screen multitasking. I don't make the concept new, but more detailed...

Update (30.01.2015):
I have the confirmation that is not a duplicate, but a vision of a complement of the concept. After i try to contact Jaakko Roppola (designer of jolla-team). He nicely approve it as a good idea for a part of his concept, in addition of that he already thought about (split view concept of Jaakko Roppola). The kind of he express himself about the concept with easy words, tells a lot about his own qualities as great designer i think. Great guy in short words.

Further update 30.01.2015
I made me thinking about the ergonomic of the gesture. The art of gesture recognition that the user could use to bring the system with one view, or on the other one.

What do you think about this:
The beginning of the sequence as Jaakko Roppola described above is really great. Simple and natural.
1) user stand in front of app-1.
2) user peek to home screen the app-1 and hold his finger on it.
3) appears on display all running apps.
Then now come the differences, and the choice between the 2 views (dual-view or pip-view):
--- dual-view variant:
4-a) user tap on the app-2 that he want to have in split-view, with his right thumb.
5-a) User have both apps in dual-screen on within the other one.
Or
--- pip-view variant #1 (b):
4-b) User hold the wished app-2 with is right thumb.
5-b) User see app-1 in full screen and 4 empty areas with dot-contour for possible pip-view places for app2 (at this state, user may release all his fingers from the screen).
6-b) User tap on one of the four corner, for the app-2 place.
7-b) User see app-1 in full screen, and app-2 in pip-view upon. If he tap on the pip-view area, then system toggle each time between both apps. And naturally no action could be done inside (the pip-view one).

--- pip-view variant #2 (c) (seems easier and smarter that #1 above):
4-c) User hold the wished app-2 with is right thumb.(same as before 4-b)
5-c) simply drag the app-2 "cover" where he want.
6-c) User has just to release his thumb from cover and that's it for split view.

Then i made some thinking about the split-view releasing.
I mean for the come back to the conventional view. ( i don't if Jaakko has already done it, but i have the conviction as good professional that he did it).
What is, if the user make first the same gesture-beginning as to activating the split-view.
Means, peek to home screen and hold his finger on it.
System makes the whole screen a little smaller (because it knows that it is in split-view).
Then he place his right thumb on the second app and hold it.
Then he could release one of the both app, if he drag it with is thumb out of the screen...
That's it for now, how are my idea/vision...

Update 10.02.2015
I make an update after a feedback of Jaako about the idea.
It seems that the dot contour story on split-view #1( idea-step 5-b) above is just a complicated process. Maybe an unnecessary gadget that give the system more job, and the development is more difficult.

As i understand it, would be better that on the step 5-b that i have described, instead of waiting of any dot forms. Then would be work on this way (describe now in 5-c point split-view #2) After that he hold on the 2nd app, the user get just the confirmation of the next step by a changing of app2 appearance, and could simply drag the "cover" where he want? If find it quite brilliant, more simple.

Maybe could it works.
It depends on you (jolla community).
It depends on the reliability, and feasibility of it.
And if the jolla team could identify itself with it.

Then please, go on your mouses, and vote it! :-D

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answered 2015-01-30 15:53:03 +0300

HarhaanJohtaja gravatar image

This?

https://together.jolla.com/question/65336/jolla-tablet-one-app-in-fullscreen-and-another-app-in-some-corner/

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@HarhaanJohtaja aaaahhhhhhhhhh!!!!! damned!
you were here before me ! incredible!!! i really search more than 20minute to find out if someone had the same idea.. and i didn't find it!
please don't close it as duplicate!
idea should live longer. How could we manage/organise ourself further on this situation, to optimize request?

cemoi71 ( 2015-01-30 16:07:42 +0300 )edit

@HarhaanJohtaja hi, the result of both threads of ours are the same. but way to come in it different. i described in more details how i have the vision of the ergonomic of gesture.
But yours is interesting too...

cemoi71 ( 2015-01-31 00:35:26 +0300 )edit

@HarhaanJohtaja sorry for the late late answer. yes you're right the way to do it is different. maybe we could make something that groups all the different ways, but at least in deserve the same goal...

cemoi71 ( 2015-02-25 01:05:12 +0300 )edit
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answered 2015-01-30 00:59:17 +0300

Have a look on this request: https://together.jolla.com/question/63871/request-jolla-tablet-split-screen-multitasking/ I think it's a duplicate because there is already a study how to implement the feature from chief Designer. What do you mean?

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no it is not a duplicate, what you see by his concept is the transition how to choose the two apps for the dual-screen. please reconsider it and analyse it again. on any case he speak about the picture in picture view. ;-) that why i reopen it please don't be too fast

cemoi71 ( 2015-01-30 01:58:53 +0300 )edit

Sorry for being that fast but I just try to help keeping tjc small not with 1000 requests ;) I thought there is already a thread to discuss this topic no need of a second tagged with feature-request and pointing in the same direction. Imo the design for split-screen is already nearly finalised reading the blog of the chief designer. I don't think that they are going to implement different kind of split-view because they don't have the manpower to develop a feature twice. But anyway I won't close it again.

drummer12 ( 2015-01-30 10:05:15 +0300 )edit

@drummer12 i have understand your motivation, that why i went not evil ;-) yes they will do that but in only one condition, that a lots of people want to have it. If a lots of people react on this thread or on an other one of that kind ;-)

cemoi71 ( 2015-01-30 10:21:21 +0300 )edit
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