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[bug] Fix 3 things from Browser before update release, please.

asked 2015-02-22 12:49:24 +0300

Makeclick gravatar image

updated 2015-02-22 13:12:49 +0300

virgi26 gravatar image

Like new browser, but there is some problems

1 Browser scroll is not smooth (while draging finger on the screen and not lift it off. If you lift your finger, it is smooth, odd). This must be gone when it's out!

2 Tabs are wrong orders: Newes should be on top and oldest on bottom (should be easy to fix)

  • this because we need to use the pulley menu to add new tab. Now it's not good if you have long list and you have to scrol up and down.

3 The real tabs! I know we can't get this to next update, i asume, but this must fix ASAP!

^^fix those and i will be very happy, thanks.

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what is "the real tabs"?

virgi26 ( 2015-02-22 13:14:20 +0300 )edit

Agree on order of tabs - closed wrong ones as it was misleading...

anandrkris ( 2015-02-22 13:41:49 +0300 )edit

@virgi26 browser have to load tabs everytime you switch then (no multitasking at all)

Makeclick ( 2015-02-22 17:51:40 +0300 )edit

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answered 2015-02-22 14:48:25 +0300

Mądry gravatar image

updated 2015-02-22 15:36:51 +0300

  1. For me it's not a big deal. I would rather have more efficient memory and battery management while browsing the web than a little bit more frames per second when scrolling. Developers time is limited and I don't think it is easy to solve problem.
  2. I like the tabs arrangement as it is now. I use the tabs window usually to switch between them so it's quite handy to have most recently used tabs on the bottom of the screen where they are easier to access by thumb. Make it up side down only to make tabs easier to close ? For me it would be counterproductive. Also there is easier way of opening new tab than using pulley menu. There's plus button hidden in the bottom browser bar. I use it very often and think of it as quite handy alternative to this in pulley menu.
  3. Real tabs ? Really ? There have been "real tabs" in browser since IIRC u7 or 8. Right now I have 2 talk.maemo.org web pages opened in the background while writing this post and can switch between them without reloading.The only reason some of your tabs must reload is because your low on ram or have filled all the browser cache ( which can be adjusted in about:config if someone likes to experiment ). One heavy site can do it by its own so there is much room to optimisation. Problem exists but I insist to not call it "not real tabs" again but rather bad optimisation/not enough optimisations/bad ram management. Also its not only related to browser but whole system which takes most of the ram ( with alien dalvik enabled ). Free ram is wasted ram but in this case, usually there is not enough ram for browser...sadly.

tl:dr I don't agree with op.

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AFAIK real tabs are limited to 3 open tabs, if more opened the oldest one gets virtualised (aka page reloaded when switching to that tab)

Morpog ( 2015-02-22 15:22:54 +0300 )edit

@1 But we have it working with last update ( and it has nothing to do with battery drain or memory usage. it is a bug and it is here like in ever other OS update or some beta browser versions did have it too.

3@ i know you can tune Jolla, but everybody can't or will and if everyting need some god damn fine tune, then Jolla is going to die. I want Jolla SailfishOS to be good to use everyone. Not only for nerds...

Makeclick ( 2015-02-22 18:23:22 +0300 )edit

@Makeclick 1. This bug is so much of a pain for me, I didn't even notice it disappeared in last update. I'm not joking. There so much of other things to improve in sailfish I can't even think of bothering myself about some little tearing in browser. 3. Nobody tells you to tune anything. There is just an option to change the behavior of the system if something doesn't suit your needs though the default settings are usually the most stable and universal. I think Jolla devs try to compromise between overall usability and performance. Sailfish browser takes about 200MB of ram with 3 web sites fully loaded. Imagine how much it would take with for example 6 ? Where would the system find a room for other apps when it takes about 400MB for it self ? You probably wouldn't be able to answer a call while browsing the web with 8 tabs fully loaded in background because it took most of the ram and system didn't have enough time to free it for dialer app. I have been a nokia n900 user for over a year and it was common behavior. Yes I was able to open as many apps as I could but I couldn't be sure of picking up a call in time. Also the tearing of ui and overall lagging when switching between apps were taking most of the usefulness and pleasure of multitasking.

Mądry ( 2015-02-22 21:04:38 +0300 )edit

@Madry Good for you then.

I like smooth experiance and when i show how cool my Jolla is, i want it is so and not to be awkward moment.

If Jolla make lags/tears. It is very bad for that image "we not need super HW to run SailfishOS". It is possible, so hope Jolla will do it... i really hope...

Makeclick ( 2015-02-23 12:27:49 +0300 )edit

answered 2015-02-22 22:26:18 +0300

coderus gravatar image

updated 2015-02-22 22:27:14 +0300

First of all it's not working in the way you want. There is many development cycles including QA and other testings. All features developing today will not be included in next release. It can be included in Update $CURRENTRELEASE+2 in best scenario only.

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I can only say. I only hope Jolla's QA and all thing are better and quicker than Nokia did have :D

Makeclick ( 2015-02-25 11:55:37 +0300 )edit
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