[HYC] Don't replace cover-action pulls with buttons

They should change something, do thing others. You will need to adjust you.

Please understand one thing: Jolla is about making money. The new why-should-you-buy-instead-of-de-facto-market-leader-android communicated is security, of your device and privacy.

UI differences, or concepts actually superior but difficult to understand or communicate, hamper the ease of switching over of said target audience (I didn't say: those 80% of the market that use android). So even if there is better concepts, revolutionary new look and feel, this won't sell Jollas to current android diciples.

I am sad about this change of course.

buttons? taps? this is just so "like"...

@Low And why we should care about that ? ;-) Aren't we supposed to be #unlike, not "consumable by average consumer" ?

@Low I understand your point, but I believe that this change will make it harder to use for the average customer. Currently, you can tap anywhere on the cover to open the app; in the new version, you will have to think twice before tapping it, so you don't trigger some other action. This will be very confusing for new users and I don't think it will get under user's skin.

It's like if you had an icon in the menu and only one half of the icon would launch an app and the second one would lock the phone - it would be the most confusing thing.

This is going to be really stupid if it reaches release. :( UI should remain consistent.

You'd need to actually care where to tap a cover to open it... this won't just be stupid this will get pretty annoying!

I hope it's the right place to ask.. what does HYC stands for?

Hear Your Customers maybe?

@c.la you could just click the tag... but Helsinki Yachting Club those who love the design team behind no buttons, peeking or any other nifty design idea supported by gestures instead of having everything always in-your-face, tidy pages, clean design.

Why not just have swiping from outside the screen to change homescreen-events-partnerspace? Then you can still swipe inside the screen to use cover actions without worrying about accidentally changing screen. Previous comments already explained many reasons why the button is a bad idea.

One action is not enough. E.g. I like the cover actions Tweetian uses and wouldn't know which to discard. Furthermore some cover actions trigger something (e.g. refreshing) without opening the app.

@synthent: this is exactly what I was suggesting! Just like invoking pulleys does not conflict with app closing gesture (even though both are just downward swipes), switching the screens with swiping-from-outside won't conflict with cover gestures.

@synthent: I was thinking the exact same thing.

At the very least there should be a phone/UI settings option for "classic" style cover actions via swipe (up/down/side,whatever works). I mean, is there any reason not to have it? Options are always good.

That way you'd at least have the choice to not have to deal with precision-clicking the covers when opening apps just to avoid triggering the cover action. We'd still have the casualty of missing one cover swipe, but at least you wouldn't have to suffer from a more cumbersome "user-friendlified" UI.

I think this question should be closed and merged with the other one with more votes.

OT, but don't want to start a new thread for just asking... what does HYC mean?

Swipe gestures are clearly superior on the phone where it is possible to trigger them with your thumb. I guess it is slightly less useful on the tablet. I could live with "buttons" on the tablet, swiping might be kind of odd there.