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[HYC] don't remove close gesture from apps [released]

asked 2015-03-02 19:10:43 +0300

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updated 2015-09-23 14:10:08 +0300

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Please don't remove top-swipe action close from in app, this should stay at least optional. The new ambience-pull-down is nice but please do not replace the close gesture with it, if it has to be there, please find a way to have both instead of sacrificing gestures for all new UI features.

And locking phone should stay a gesture too, not pull-down+tap.

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I really like the new way of doing it. Only thing I dislike is sacrificing app closing by swiping down for it

Morpog ( 2015-03-02 19:18:25 +0300 )edit
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We need a separate close gesture different from swipe from top. It was a mistake in the first place to have one gesture do two things.

ApB ( 2015-03-02 19:23:24 +0300 )edit
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@ApB two things, we started off with "close" only (I consider locking the phone also a "close" gesture) - that was set to "minimize" apps then and lock the phone separating in two different actions. @Morpog yeah I like the ambience-switcher being moved there and the "silence" too but one thing still bothers, if I flick it down will my phone lock or do I need to tap something? If I do need to tap something total fail!

chemist ( 2015-03-02 19:33:39 +0300 )edit
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At least i hope we can configure it in order to have it only lock the screen. If we need to swipe and tap to lock is a step back.

ApB ( 2015-03-02 20:11:04 +0300 )edit

Added to top-post.

chemist ( 2015-03-02 20:14:23 +0300 )edit

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answered 2015-09-07 20:11:12 +0300

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errrr.......how about tap and hold on the active cover of the app and then flick it any direction and away? ok if you don't want it to conflict with the left / right swipe then perhaps just flick it to the top or bottom?

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answered 2015-09-05 12:55:07 +0300

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updated 2015-09-05 13:01:44 +0300

You can close with a swipe from the top in Sailfish 2.0 as well so I'm closing this. The other request to not require an additional tap to lock the screen is not reflected in the title so I'm ignoring it. Honestly, it's just as much work to swipe from the top inside an app and tap to lock the screen like it is now in Sailfish 2.0, than to swipe from the top or side of an app and then again from the top to lock the screen, as it was in earlier Sailfish. There's no real reason to close apps anyway (the OOM killer does it for you!)

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tap to lock?

can you give a rundown of what changed in SFOS2 gesture wise? Also i saw a settings screenshot that had gestures as a selection. what does it include?

ApB ( 2015-09-05 13:24:50 +0300 )edit

@ApB: Swipe down from the top anywhere (except in the list of apps) to get the list of favourite ambiences, with a lock icon at the top, tapping that icon locks the screen. The gestures you can currently configure are 'quick app close' (closing with a swipe from the top, as it used to be, of course if you enable this then you will need to swipe twice from the top and then another tap to lock the screen) and 'quick events access', which when enabled lets you access the Events screen from absolutely anywhere with a swipe from the left. (swipe from right still goes straight to the home screen)

You can check it out yourself by setting your Sailfish version to 1.1.9.27 and doing a version --dup. This is probably the version you'll get later anyway as I haven't encountered any bugs. It's worth it!

nthn ( 2015-09-05 15:16:39 +0300 )edit
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"There's no real reason to close apps anyway (the OOM killer does it for you!)"WTF?

Regarding the closing, I disagree - you're not closing just the title, but the post as well, so its contents are relevant. It it much more hassle to lock the screen in 1.1.9.x, so this question should stay open until it is resolved.

nodevel ( 2015-09-05 15:26:11 +0300 )edit

@nodevel: then the post might as well have 2000 other bugs or feature requests and you could only close it once they were all solved/implemented. One issue per post, or at least all issues in the title of the post. Otherwise there is nothing but a giant mess.

nthn ( 2015-09-05 15:43:41 +0300 )edit
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@nthn So you can lock the screen from inside an app without closing or swiping away the app first? Well, this is something I missed a lot and its addition is worth the extra tap to lock.

Giacomo Di Giacomo ( 2015-09-05 17:50:48 +0300 )edit
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answered 2015-04-16 00:16:50 +0300

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It seems that the Jolla team has this issue on their radar. After having read the following text in the official Jolla blog I am confident that Sailfish 2.0 will still offer a convenient way to close apps.

Quote (bold added by me):

Sailfish OS 2.0 - Design Insights

Sailfish OS is currently evolving to the next generation (‘Sailfish OS 2.0′) and there are many design related questions, which we are working on, like: Why is the User Interface perceived as simpler than before? How can I close an app super quickly? How to access Events? Can I have two Cover actions?

Source:

https://blog.jolla.com/design-insights-sailfish-os/

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If you continue to read, you will see that it's already designed to be configurable: However when you advance you are able to unlock handy tricks, e.g. closing an app via a top edge swipe or direct access to Events from anywhere in the UI.

Sthocs ( 2015-04-16 12:14:41 +0300 )edit
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answered 2015-04-13 19:44:14 +0300

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updated 2015-04-13 19:44:14 +0300

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Looks like Jolla listened to the voice of the Community:

"You can tailor the experience according to your personal needs and wishes. The baseline is simple and easy already when you get hold of the UI for the first time. However when you advance you are able to unlock handy tricks, e.g. closing an app via a top edge swipe or direct access to Events from anywhere in the UI."

For more see https://blog.jolla.com/design-insights-sailfish-os/.

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answered 2015-03-19 17:25:08 +0300

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updated 2015-03-19 17:26:14 +0300

it should be customizable and everyone will be happy.

system > shortcuts

-swipe to close

-swipe to lock

-double tap to lock

-disable ambiance pully

-enable shortcut pully

-disable partner screen

etc...

But the USER must have the choice! Power to the people

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answered 2015-03-19 16:56:16 +0300

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Just answer to two questions:

  1. What do you do more often - change the ambiance or close the application?
  2. Which one should be easier accessible?

I like the top menu with ambiances and lock button but I guess it should be only available on the main screen, not on the application layer.

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definitly close app and lock device!

evo3de ( 2015-03-19 17:00:43 +0300 )edit
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definitely close app and additionally I want to lock the device by a gesture, so ambience could e.g. be a two-finger swipe or instead stay where it is now (swipe to side on home screen).

NuklearFart ( 2015-03-19 17:05:24 +0300 )edit
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answered 2015-03-17 22:25:01 +0300

SaimenSays gravatar image

Why is there no official statement about this topic? Over 300 votes here is much enough feedback, to get it as the community wants it!

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There will be no official statements until Jolla is ready to present 2.0 in its entirety (I believe) but SOON(tm) comes to mind :)

chemist ( 2015-03-17 23:00:12 +0300 )edit
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answered 2015-03-17 11:40:21 +0300

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Please do not remove or replace "swipe 2 close" and "swipe 2 lock" - keep it simple at is it.

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answered 2015-03-16 15:47:04 +0300

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Another suggestion:

2 finger swipe gesture --> Change Ambience 1 finger swipe gesture --> Close app

Beside this solution I also find the L gesture good (mentioned above). Swipe from (left/right) and while holding you can decide to just "go out of the app" or by further swiping down "to close the app". This reminds me very strong about the old "Peek/Glance" gestures in Blackberry OS10.

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I think that could actually work!

Mariusmssj ( 2015-03-16 18:04:21 +0300 )edit
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Not good in onehanded use thou two use two fingers

mosen ( 2015-03-17 16:54:53 +0300 )edit
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Do you switch ambiences that often? I think for the ambiances a two finger swipe would be ok ...

elastic ( 2015-03-17 23:18:42 +0300 )edit
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@zappAtom : PERFECT idea, 1 finger close, 2 fingers for ambiences or something less important than super-ultra-cool swipe&close

pan tau ( 2015-03-19 01:47:04 +0300 )edit

Very good idea, which could be optional via settings. This way we can still close apps they way we're used to and change ambiences with two finger swipe.

molan ( 2015-04-22 18:09:32 +0300 )edit
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answered 2015-03-15 22:03:08 +0300

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Seems like Jolla wants to create OS like any other. But I remember, Sailfish had to be UNLIKE ! No one has such easy and fun way to close app! And it MUST stay as it is! I don't need to change ambience with open app on the screen. When app is open - swipe down should close the app, on any other situation swipe down can be like it is now in OS 2.0. In other words we will have possibility to close app with one swipe and lock the device with the second (but with a little shorter swipe).

I use to use swipe-down-to-close since october 2011 (Nokia N9) up to now, and if it will disappear from Jolla it will be unacceptable for me.

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THIS IS what I want to say !!!

Amber ( 2015-03-16 08:55:33 +0300 )edit

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