asked 2015-03-03 16:39:19 +0300
It seems you removed it from SFOS 2.0. It adds one more gesture before being able to launch something.
UPDATE: We now know it can be triggered when the home-screen is empty. Well, my home-screen is empty in two cases, after a reboot (usually a system upgrade) or after lipstick crashed... chemist
answered 2015-10-27 23:17:24 +0300
With over 100 Votes it should be at least optional to bring it back. In my opinion on a phone favourites are mandatory. Also I'd prefer to have the option to tell how many favs there are. Now, still on 1.1.7 I have 5 colums of apps in the drawer. This better matches with the size of the screen.
answered 2015-09-28 23:28:37 +0300
The problem with pulling up the app drawer is that it jumps to the top of the screen. This makes the favourites more cumbersome to reach, since you have to reach all the way to the top in order to tap them. After the pull, your thumb is not even half way from the bottom of the screen. So, to open a favourite, you have to move your thumb from the bottom of the screen all the way to the top. This = bad UX design.
If you can stop the pull somewhere half way (i.e. the app drawer covers only part of the screen) you can pull exactly to position the app you want to open at a comfortable height for your thumb.
As a work around, you can rearrange the app drawer to have your favourites just under the middle of the first page in the app drawer, but that's not an elegant solution of course...
answered 2015-09-28 15:21:47 +0300
@ApB @chemist yes as id it told on the update the favourites are not removed.
they appears in an other kind of design trick....
definitively if the home has no cover (means no app are opened).
Then we tap on the screen then the first line of the app launcher (favourites) appears.
What i want to tell here in my answer here is
What kind of thinking is done by bringing an half solution, just to let appears if home is empty?
that is a strange user experience one i think.
i would find correct that they want to make it possible in any case. see this thread: https://together.jolla.com/question/111978/first-app-line-scroll-up-by-taping-on-non-empty-home-screen/?comment=112197#comment-112197
but through a lot's problem it is currently not stable and and just build it for the more simple situation (empty home). hoping that none would see it so fast...
Don't know but seems to me that there is a little communication lack.
That dev-team has not reached the full design expected on time, and would be not communicated.
Or the dev team has not really understand the the designer in details.
... (Or maybe designers have some eccentric ideas) ...
answered 2015-09-11 13:42:50 +0300
I really like how it was before, with the first row of the apps visible always on home screen. Reasons: - These are the most important apps that we access many many times per day. It is annoying to do one more gesture to open these apps. - When there is no opened app, the lock screen and the home screen are very very similar, where the only difference is the date/time in the lock screen.
I would suggest this behavior for the first row of the apps: - Always visible on home screen. Only hide them where there are >9 apps opened at the same time. - I really like the option to go the all apps screen from anywhere (e.g. when in another app, bottom edge swipe to open the all apps screen). I would keep the first row hidden when not in home screen, and we could access to this first row of apps together with the all other app screen when bottom edge swipe when we are anywhere but in home screen.
answered 2015-09-10 12:37:05 +0300
The reason for this change is obviously to enable the vertically scrolling home-screen for use with more than 9 app covers.
With that in mind, what I would like to see is that the quick-app bar remains on the front screen until the 10th app is opened when it can be pushed back into the app-drawer. With small amount of app covers the screen space is there so it can obviously be visible without the need for additional gestures.
answered 2015-09-03 08:25:59 +0300
On SFOS 2.0 we will be able to pull up the application-screen at anytime, indicated by a small white pull-indicator, which is there in both home-screens (notifications and multitasking view) and fades away when an app is in foreground). I can think of following two possibilities:
Option in settings to display first row of apps all the time (so in both home-screens)
Longpress (>=1.00 second) on the lower part of the screen (where the white pull-indicator is) will make the first row pop up - similar to how it works on MeeGo Harmattan. This could be done in both home screens.
There should be space for that, especially since 2.0 is build to be much more dynamic and multitasking windows could move a bit up / get smaller whenever the app row pops up (seems to happen already now when you pull up application-view and small notification icons appear on left side). App names shouldn't be showed (like in current versions of SFOS) which would save some space.
When those apps appear, it could be still possible to pull them up all the way if needed. This might conflict with the already implemented way of pulling up the app view...but I'm sure solutions can be found ;-)
Most people now have to use two hand so make a phone call. I have fairly large hands, but I cannot tap on the top left corner with my right hand thumb, can you?
If they really have to be hidden then JOLLA should keep the option of 'tap to see' despite the fact that there are open apps. This looks like a whimsical designer or UX person thinking 'fuck the functionality' this looks better. I sometimes wonder if people who make decisions like that actually use the things they design.
strayobject ( 2015-09-14 14:35:24 +0300 )edit@strayobject, with 1.1.9.28 you need to rearrange your apps in Launcher to make it work. You don't need two hands to make a phone call once you have moved your Phone app to a convenient location.
But I agree with you that "tap to see" is a must.
ssahla ( 2015-09-17 23:56:40 +0300 )editanswered 2015-09-03 03:27:54 +0300
There are only four icons and how much space they can take? App like Camera need to be launched immediately, without favourites on home-screen, how to do it?
I like the hidden faves, but I'd want them open ALWAYS on tap or double tap or stroke, and same goes for the shortcuts menu: Should be always at hand, not just from lockscreen. And I'd want a better vertical carousel: Lock>home>apps>lock, so I can go back to lock for shortcuts.
danfin ( 2015-09-10 12:33:21 +0300 )editanswered 2015-08-27 17:05:39 +0300
+1 ! So usefull ! i can't use my jolla without it !
answered 2015-03-14 19:58:15 +0300
In my opinion on a phone the dialler is more important than so much else so it needs to be on top. Aditionally of course messages centre. Even on Android there are favs on each home screen.
I think that in addition to that the buttons are too big. I changed it to 5 favs on home via patchmanager and the size of the icons is much better for me. Hopefully Jolla thinks about those things.
answered 2015-03-14 17:21:12 +0300
Telephony and messaging are so essential features on the phone there needs to be a quick access to them available always. Android and iOS got that right making them available always as static shortcuts on the central screen shown after unlocking the device. SailfishOS improved on this merging these shortcuts with all other app shortcuts and making it a way to pull-up more apps. User can also decide on ones own which for apps are most important. Maybe camera, media player? Nice and intuitive.
I can understand that on tablet all-apps-are-equal. And you have enough memory and power on tablet to keep apps just open and access them via covers. But it is not the case for the phone.
As for me telephony and messaging are not so essential. Especially when you have apps like Viber wich makes telephony and messaging cheaper and nicer.
kandelabra ( 2015-09-29 12:00:23 +0300 )editAsked: 2015-03-03 16:39:19 +0300
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I think the new buttonless homescreen is way better. Shortcut buttons just take space, I'd rather see more and bigger app covers. Looks cleaner and more beautiful. And follows the sailfish way -gestures, no buttons.
jii ( 2015-03-03 22:39:59 +0300 )editThey are breaking every damn thing UI/UX wise in SFOS 2.0. Which is plain stupid. It would be fine to do if SFOS 1.x wasn't doing the job but that is not the case here. SFOS 1.x needed minor polishing to excel and they decided to redesign all the stuff that were good while introducing stuff that add clutter. TBH i'd like to see the design team -or whoever got the decision- explain the reasoning behind all this but i doubt this will happen.
At leas i hope they (or jakko) will read the posts on the design in TJC.
ApB ( 2015-03-03 23:30:45 +0300 )editEspecially on the phone it is the central thing to be able to phone. I dont want to swipe first before able to do a call.
NuklearFart ( 2015-03-13 21:42:01 +0300 )editWhen you can launch an app from inside any app, no need to have favorites. You can put your favorites on the topmost row which is shown when no app is open.
AliN ( 2015-06-12 12:00:59 +0300 )edit@AliNa the fav bar is not gone, in videos you see it being pulled in by tapping the home screen. For your other comment, NO, topmost row is the least usable and your suggestion makes the current favbar obsolete too, it is only visible on home-screen... if rumours are right, we will be able to pick the swipe actions our own, and I for one will not have the app-launcher on global swipe up!
chemist ( 2015-06-12 14:05:56 +0300 )edit