czech keyboard contains many wrong optional letters [answered]

asked 2015-05-17 12:44:53 +0300

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updated 2015-05-21 07:02:19 +0300

seems the keyboard is a an overall slavic or whatever. many letters just do not exist in czech. i.e. ßśş etc. i am willed to enlist all wrong ones, if someone would fix that i understand that this is low prio, but lot people take their language serious

most of them i have never seen before. and they just slow me down during typing, cause in czech you need the 'czech' optional letters in almost every second word, which is not the case in german or english.

so this is a request to remove some of them

i did find the accelerator key's to switch to the important optional ones like š,č,ř,ž .. (see my answer)

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Try contacting the author directly. Who authored the keyboard?, tmi?, penguin?, nodevel?, most of these guys can be found at talk.maemo.org (another great resource for Jolla/N9/N900/N950), or at Openrepos.

Spam Hunter ( 2015-05-17 13:17:33 +0300 )edit

I do not see this as a bug at all, and could argue that any keyboard with strictly limited letters would be more of a problem. I would understand the need to remove foreign letters were they in the seen layout. But when those letters are behind a long press, I think it as a feature, not a bug.

People surely use foreign words and write in other language(s) despite the keyboard layout they are using. And I, for one, ~~welcome our new insect overlords~~ wouldn't want to change the layout everytime if/when I need to write in some other language than the current keyboard is (supposedly) made for.

What comes to the Czech keyboard with the fixed dead key in OpenRepos, it is layoutwise by Jolla. Unfortunately, I have no plans of doing any more modifications to it as the keyboard is meant to be a temporary fix, anyway.

tmi ( 2015-05-17 16:40:37 +0300 )edit

i am not using a open repos patch. i expect it s the std jolla keyboard if it s a feature, then why are those letters not there on the german or english keyboard ? ;-) bug or feature discussions hmmm

pawel ( 2015-05-18 22:14:03 +0300 )edit

The English keyboard does indeed have more letters -including the Eszett (ß)- available than is necessary to write strictly in English. (The fact they might not be 100% the same extra letters than in the Czech layout is beside the point.)

Extra letters to use in any keyboard outside the visible layout is a feature, and a helpful one.

Luckily, the Sailfish keyboards are malleable so it should be quite easy for yourself to remove any letters you deem "wrong" in the keyboard of your choosing: https://together.jolla.com/question/21510/howto-adapt-sailfish-virtual-keyboard-vkb-layout/

tmi ( 2015-05-18 23:47:23 +0300 )edit

if i need french chars i switch to french keyboard thats what multiple keyboards are for but thanks for the link

pawel ( 2015-05-20 20:42:36 +0300 )edit

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answered 2015-05-20 15:34:19 +0300

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HI, Having extra characters in the pop-ups is not a bug. They are there for a reason. They don't interfere with normal writing but add value when e.g. you want to type a name with a diacritic that does not exist in your own language. This is very typical for names, places etc.

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is any of you using the czech keyboard ? doubt that. i would not dare to discuss finish keyboard layout with you, just a side mark. if my karma were higher i would suggest: please change your answer to a comment ;-)

pawel ( 2015-05-20 20:39:49 +0300 )edit

I bet that writing strange foreign names with weird letters isn't something that any of us do on a daily basis. In my opinion displaying all those strange alternatives should be optional. Honestly I wouldn't even know how to write them on my computer using regular keyboard and in real life I simplify it - e.g. when I need to write ä I write a. Spell checking can correct it for me. In my case it confused me and actually annoyed, that whenever I wanted to write special letter used in Polish language I had to strain my eyes to choose right one. Luckily I have found switch that displays alternatives used in given language (like in pawel's answer below). Switching to another language seems to be more effective, because in mobile devices, Jolla as well, keyboards anticipate what you write based on dictionary. This way we can write without diacritic and keyboard will propose correct spelling.

MrDoctor ( 2015-05-20 23:57:33 +0300 )edit

answered 2015-05-20 21:15:16 +0300

pawel

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just found theˇ key. that switches c to č etc. with that accelerator i do not care bout the optional keys anymore.... also this accelerator ´ is usefull

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so this is a request to remove some of them

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