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[Implemented in 1.0.5.16] mms - multimedia message [released]

asked 2013-12-25 11:11:27 +0300

petros gravatar image

updated 2014-05-05 16:00:17 +0300

chemist gravatar image

...I know it's somehow outdated to send mms nowadays but it will be nice if available

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Could also be done by community. (Like it was on N900) Of course it would be sweet to have integrated in the messages app, but imho there are things to prioritize higher". My two cents :-)

Swl ( 2013-12-25 12:36:40 +0300 )edit
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It reminds me "FMMS" for N900 :)

nsuffys ( 2013-12-25 18:45:44 +0300 )edit
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I've been on Frals to ask him, he's at least made a script to send mms from commandline. :-) Check his twitter (@frals)

Swl ( 2013-12-25 18:51:17 +0300 )edit

@eric did you mark this with roadmap? or was this invalidly marked roadmap?

AL13N ( 2013-12-26 18:11:38 +0300 )edit
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@AL13N Yes, I did mark it intentionally.

eric ( 2013-12-26 18:28:22 +0300 )edit

@eric ok, just to check (tbh, i didn't think this would actually be on the roadmap :-) )

AL13N ( 2013-12-26 18:32:13 +0300 )edit
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Love it that it is on the roadmap! Thank you!

Venty ( 2013-12-27 16:07:39 +0300 )edit
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In some country (like france), MMS are very used, it can be a serious problem if jolla don't support it...

condo4 ( 2013-12-28 13:39:17 +0300 )edit

Yes I need it for work

matllica ( 2013-12-28 14:58:02 +0300 )edit
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There are still plenty of people who have no smartphones, or just no proper data plan. Some people will never use social media, using emails to quickly send a picture is cumbersome. With MMS you only download the content, but have the notification instantly.

Kabouik ( 2013-12-28 17:04:11 +0300 )edit

Really ? I sent less than 5 mms since 2001 and receive less than 10 where half was spam/error ... Yes i'm french.

And please next time use comment, that s not an answer

Khertan ( 2013-12-31 10:08:35 +0300 )edit

This is not answer! Delete it .. or move to question comment.

Kaacz ( 2013-12-31 10:38:45 +0300 )edit
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I really miss MMS... IMO opinion its outdated to NOT have that features. I mean how else do u send pictures to someone? Whatsapp? - no thanks + not everyone uses it. MMS are used a lot, especially in flatrate-times we live in.

molan ( 2013-12-31 10:39:54 +0300 )edit

@caprico email

AL13N ( 2013-12-31 10:53:31 +0300 )edit

in my country, i cannot find one friend who actually used MMS more that once (to try it out)

AL13N ( 2013-12-31 10:54:23 +0300 )edit
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@AL13N see comment from @Kabouik, it largely depends on your contacts. I send usually more MMS than SMS (also receive), but also have a lot of contacts who have never even heard of MMS. Just because you have no use for it, doesn't mean there aren't others who consider it to be a major feature...

ziller ( 2013-12-31 11:01:40 +0300 )edit

MMS is important. Even if you and I understand that email is a better option, that doesnt mean that our relatives and friends who send MMS to us today understand/care, they have been using MMS for a very long time and do it to multiple people. Apple with Iphone tried to remove it but had to add it

Kiranos ( 2013-12-31 11:38:46 +0300 )edit

Plz add this

Saqib Iqbal ( 2013-12-31 12:38:06 +0300 )edit

I don't know about this... I have never used the feature myself, and there are plenty of alternatives available.

The protocol is also a mess, if I recall correctly, so it is going to waste a lot of engineering and testing time...

mikelima ( 2013-12-31 14:15:43 +0300 )edit
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Receiving is minimum, there are still people sending MMSes,

jin ( 2013-12-31 15:26:46 +0300 )edit
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corneliusg ( 2013-12-31 16:31:38 +0300 )edit
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Actually I never use MMS, however, it is somehow an essential standard and missing to have it may keep people away from Jolla...

ramoth ( 2013-12-31 17:29:02 +0300 )edit

In fact, arround me, many peaple use it to transmit photo when they don't have internet on there cell phone plan

condo4 ( 2013-12-31 17:49:03 +0300 )edit
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With absolute certainty it will keep EVERYBODY away from Jolla, who loves MMS. With absolute certainty EVERYBODY, who receives MMSs from friends, is going to be repelled by the pain she/he has to take, to login with the provider to download the pic (day two with my Jolla). Be unlike, not cryptic.

corneliusg ( 2013-12-31 18:08:53 +0300 )edit

That s still exists ? even free.fr provide 50 Mb data with his 2€/month plan ...

Khertan ( 2013-12-31 18:10:34 +0300 )edit
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MMS is (one of the) simplest, while not the cheapest, way to send photos from a phone. Ye Olden Folks don't want to learn more complicated ways to send a photo to their (grand)children or friends.

pnuu ( 2013-12-31 18:15:13 +0300 )edit
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@corneliuslius It is not about personal preferences and different ways to do things. It is about Jolla and whether it is going to shoot itself into the knee. That's what worries me. Jolla has not the resources of others to correct a blunder like omitting MMS, a basic function of high priority for millions.

corneliusg ( 2013-12-31 19:24:26 +0300 )edit
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Happy New Year everybody! And a thought about SMS/MMS and local economy I ask you to consider. SMS/MMS is beyond any consideration of the trend line always my first choice because I rather support local infrastructure/economy than multi-billion multinational corporations, that escape paying taxes.

corneliusg ( 2014-01-01 13:29:01 +0300 )edit

@corneliusg Happy new year to you, too. Well, there is always email. :) You can set it up with your provider as well...

mikelima ( 2014-01-04 14:28:04 +0300 )edit
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I know bunch of people who don't have smart phones but they have a camera on their phones. They usually have Nokia S40 series phones. I get MMS messages from them once in a while.

Ilari Stenroth ( 2014-01-04 16:20:56 +0300 )edit

@Ilari Stenroth and they transfer these with bluetooth to do useful stuff

AL13N ( 2014-01-04 16:26:05 +0300 )edit
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Bluetooth doesn't feel usable to replace MMS. You're not exactly in the bluetooth range all the time.

Swl ( 2014-01-04 16:28:38 +0300 )edit
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@AL14N, maybe we should request 900 km range for BT ;-)

pnuu ( 2014-01-04 16:35:05 +0300 )edit
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It was a big story when Apple introduced MMS to IOS (everybody was making jokes about the missing feature before). I still send and receive MMS from time to time and wouldn't want to miss the support for it (Used fmms on the N900 because it never got MMS-Support)

Cmdr_Zod ( 2014-01-04 17:04:59 +0300 )edit
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Even funnier is that Steve Jobs gave the same suggestion as someone on thos thread. To use email instead. :-)

Swl ( 2014-01-04 17:07:27 +0300 )edit

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answered 2014-01-10 00:06:29 +0300

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As @eric hinted with the roadmap tag: we're working on it. It's an important feature.

I can't make any promises at this point about when it will show up or what specifically will be supported. But, we are actively working on it.

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I do appreciate your confirmation @jbrooks , thank you very much!

corneliusg ( 2014-01-10 01:24:06 +0300 )edit
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hope we dont have to wait april for this update, but probably it will be not before.... :(
I cant use my jolla since often have to send mms to non-smartphone phones.... amazing that this feature is still not there... so in the meantime my jolla is in my room....super!

enki ( 2014-03-18 13:17:00 +0300 )edit
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Tweet my Marc Dillon today: http://t.co/M5tYsEXlQe MMS coming in update 5, which is still on target.

ssahla ( 2014-03-18 22:36:08 +0300 )edit
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answered 2014-01-04 19:26:06 +0300

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In my opinion discussions about alternatives to MMS, its outdatedness or the technical pain of full MMS implementation miss, what makes MMS an absolutely crucial feature for Jolla: SMS/MMS are THE standard on every phone around the world to send messages or pictures. SMS/MMS are deeply rooted in the short and very successful history of cellphones, its users and in what services users expect to find on their phones. Do not deliver an absolutely great device, that lacks what people at least would have expected. Jolla must be aware, that the moment you decide against MMS, you delete a large number of future orders from Jolla shop. IMO this number might be large enough to sink this precious little boat. Please do remember, that the N9, the only comparable device with full MMS, was quite a success despite the fact, that everybody knew it was still born. Get yourself used to the feeling, that not only addicts, but a great great number of so called 'common people' will absolutely love their Jolla TOH. You do a great job!

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@corneliusg: I agree with you completely. Some excuses for not needing MMS would apply to SMS equally well. Why use SMS when you can send emails with the mobile? However, I understand not implementing MMS right away if technical difficulties lead to prioritizing different features over it.

Iipe ( 2014-01-04 21:33:58 +0300 )edit
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@corneliusg: I also agree with you, but your answer is a comment, not a "real" answer that should come from Jolla in the form of an (sort-of-)official "it's on the roadmap (or not)". The MMS question should stay in the unanswered pool as long as nobody from Jolla has written such a reply.

idiallo ( 2014-01-05 15:26:59 +0300 )edit
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I agree MMS is vital. 1) There are a lot of cell phone users, who read their email only occasionally or don't use email at all 2) Sending and receiving pictures must be available out of the box. Configuring email in Jolla is not simple for all email operators

jpek-m ( 2014-02-01 08:02:15 +0300 )edit
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I do not use email in my phone and i like to send pics or othes "big" file. Mms is very important feature.

carpender ( 2014-02-11 07:20:47 +0300 )edit
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answered 2014-01-10 23:00:25 +0300

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updated 2014-02-14 21:22:42 +0300

I would like to have mms support for a completely different reason. It's very common to send contact details (as vcard) via mms. If I choose send vcard via message on Android it's done as MMS. At least for this reason there should be support. At the moment the messages simply do not arrive and the receiver does not even get a notification (which might be a separate bug).

Update: See also this question that is related to the send/receive contacs only

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@jukey, indeed, is depend of your operator services. As true exemplewith Swisscom operator send an SMS to customer about MSM for tell me visit website for look the MMS with a single code available 24h. It fine as workaround until i can direct receive/send MMS from Sailfish.

Another point, I did not understant why jolla/Sailfish doing the exactly same mistake of 1st iPhone about MMS missing from start ! Jolla did not care lesson from others company mistake or is just for play with annoying teenagers buzz about very basic feature of phone ? MMS is very easy and less complicate than use email especially if can't send email stay at outbox

redge73 ( 2014-01-26 22:46:52 +0300 )edit
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Also still done is sending contact card as SMS - the N9 at least sends and receives contact cards to and from the distinctly pre-MMS Nokia 1100 as two SMS per contact card. But, SMS contact cards are not handled by Jolla either.

mdoube ( 2014-02-04 18:04:46 +0300 )edit

Also - at least for US operators when you send a group SMS (SMS to several recipients), it comes in as an MMS - or in the case of the Jolla, not at all. Not sure if this is the same for all operators. I'm on business travel in the US and found this out the hard way, so I've had to switch back to my N9 because between that and the Jolla's insistence on not connecting to any useful data source (4G, 3G, or ad-hoc wi-fi) it just doesn't work as a business phone here.

Elliott ( 2014-03-13 23:14:28 +0300 )edit

Sending and receiving vcards works fine. Great! :)

jukey ( 2014-04-15 11:28:20 +0300 )edit

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