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Is anything open source that was not required to be by license?

I recently saw a list of packages sorted by license and at first glance anything remotely Jolla specific was closed source. I'm more than a bit disappointed by this. It seems even android has a larger percentage of open sourced core applications. Is there any plan to make this Situation better?

Is anything open source that was not required to be by license?

I recently saw a list of packages sorted by license and at first glance anything remotely Jolla specific was closed source. I'm more than a bit disappointed by this. It seems even android has a larger percentage of open sourced core applications. Is there any plan to make this Situation better?

Let me elaborate a little on my question. Of cause it is polemic but the core is very serious. I preordered my Jolla because i was looking for a phone that was open "unlike" ios, android, windows... Jolla allways emphasizing their collaboration with the open source community seemed to be that phone. I could have gotten much better hardware and software features for quite a lot less money but my hope for a truely open but still awesome phone system lead me to buy Jolla. My hope, maybe a bit naive, was that Jolla would become what Openmoko should have been. But it seems that Jolla just took what the open source community had to offer and added their (beautiful but) proprietary UI System.

Is anything open source that was not required to be by license?Which parts of Sailfish are closed source, why and will that change?

I recently saw a list of packages sorted by license and at first glance anything remotely Jolla specific was closed source. I'm more than a bit disappointed by this. It seems even android has a larger percentage of open sourced core applications. Is there any plan to make this Situation better?

Let me elaborate a little on my question. Of cause it is polemic but the core is very serious. I preordered my Jolla because i was looking for a phone that was open "unlike" ios, android, windows... Jolla allways emphasizing their collaboration with the open source community seemed to be that phone. I could have gotten much better hardware and software features for quite a lot less money but my hope for a truely open but still awesome phone system lead me to buy Jolla. Jolla.

Update: rephrased my question to be a little less polemic. My hope, maybe a bit naive, was that Jolla would become what Openmoko should have been. But it seems that Jolla just took what the open source community had to offer and added their (beautiful but) proprietary UI System.

Which parts of Sailfish are closed source, why and will that change?

I recently saw a list of packages sorted by license and at first glance anything remotely Jolla specific was closed source. I'm more than a bit disappointed by this. It seems even android has a larger percentage of open sourced core applications. Is there any plan to make this Situation better?

Let me elaborate a little on my question. Of cause it is polemic but the core is very serious. I preordered my Jolla because i was looking for a phone that was open "unlike" ios, android, windows... Jolla allways emphasizing their collaboration with the open source community seemed to be that phone. I could have gotten much better hardware and software features for quite a lot less money but my hope for a truely open but still awesome phone system lead me to buy Jolla.

Update: rephrased my question to be a little less polemic. My hope, maybe a bit naive, was that Jolla would become what Openmoko should have been. But it seems that Jolla just took what the open source community had to offer and added their (beautiful but) proprietary UI System.

Update: rephrased my question to be a little less polemic.

Which parts of Sailfish are closed source, why and will that change?

I recently saw a list of packages sorted by license and at first glance anything remotely Jolla specific was closed source. I'm more than a bit disappointed by this. It seems even android has a larger percentage of open sourced core applications. Is there any plan to make this Situation better?

Let me elaborate a little on my question. Of cause it is polemic but the core is very serious. I preordered my Jolla because i was looking for a phone that was open "unlike" ios, android, windows... Jolla allways emphasizing their collaboration with the open source community seemed to be that phone. I could have gotten much better hardware and software features for quite a lot less money but my hope for a truely open but still awesome phone system lead me to buy Jolla.

My hope, maybe a bit naive, was that Jolla would become what Openmoko should have been. But it seems that Jolla just took what the open source community had to offer and added their (beautiful but) proprietary UI System.

Update: rephrased my question to be a little less polemic.

Which parts of Sailfish are closed source, why and will that change?

I recently saw a list of packages sorted by license and at first glance anything remotely Jolla specific was closed source. I'm more than a bit disappointed by this. It seems even android has a larger percentage of open sourced core applications. Is there any plan to make this Situation better?

Let me elaborate a little on my question. Of cause it is polemic but the core is very serious. I preordered my Jolla because i was looking for a phone that was open "unlike" ios, android, windows... Jolla allways emphasizing their collaboration with the open source community seemed to be that phone. I could have gotten much better hardware and software features for quite a lot less money but my hope for a truely open but still awesome phone system lead me to buy Jolla.

My hope, maybe a bit naive, was that Jolla would become what Openmoko should have been. But it seems that Jolla just took what the open source community had to offer and added their (beautiful but) proprietary UI System.

Update: rephrased my question to be a little less polemic.

Which parts of Sailfish are closed source, why and will that change?

I recently saw a list of packages sorted by license and at first glance anything remotely Jolla specific was closed source. I'm more than a bit disappointed by this. It seems even android has a larger percentage of open sourced core applications. Is there any plan to make this Situation better?

Let me elaborate a little on my question. Of cause it is polemic but the core is very serious. I preordered my Jolla because i was looking for a phone that was open "unlike" ios, android, windows... Jolla allways emphasizing their collaboration with the open source community seemed to be that phone. I could have gotten much better hardware and software features for quite a lot less money but my hope for a truely open but still awesome phone system lead me to buy Jolla.

My hope, maybe a bit naive, was that Jolla would become what Openmoko should have been. But it seems that Jolla just took what the open source community had to offer and added their (beautiful but) proprietary UI System.

Update: rephrased my question to be a little less polemic.

Update: Quote of the License Section on the Sailfish Site: Our goal with the Sailfish OS is to develop an open source operating system in co-operation with the community, thus ensuring the development of a best-of-breed operating system.

Which parts of Sailfish are closed source, why and will that change?

I recently saw a list of packages sorted by license and at first glance anything remotely Jolla specific was closed source. I'm more than a bit disappointed by this. It seems even android has a larger percentage of open sourced core applications. Is there any plan to make this Situation better?

Let me elaborate a little on my question. Of cause it is polemic but the core is very serious. I preordered my Jolla because i was looking for a phone that was open "unlike" ios, android, windows... Jolla allways emphasizing their collaboration with the open source community seemed to be that phone. I could have gotten much better hardware and software features for quite a lot less money but my hope for a truely open but still awesome phone system lead me to buy Jolla.

My hope, maybe a bit naive, was that Jolla would become what Openmoko should have been. But it seems that Jolla just took what the open source community had to offer and added their (beautiful but) proprietary UI System.

Update: rephrased my question to be a little less polemic.

Update: Quote of the License Section on the Sailfish Site: Our goal with the Sailfish OS is to develop an open source operating system in co-operation with the community, thus ensuring the development of a best-of-breed operating system.

Which parts of Sailfish are closed source, why and will that change?

I recently saw a list of packages sorted by license and at first glance anything remotely Jolla specific was closed source. I'm more than a bit disappointed by this. It seems even android has a larger percentage of open sourced core applications. Is there any plan to make this Situation better?

Let me elaborate a little on my question. Of cause it is polemic but the core is very serious. I preordered my Jolla because i was looking for a phone that was open "unlike" ios, android, windows... Jolla allways emphasizing their collaboration with the open source community seemed to be that phone. I could have gotten much better hardware and software features for quite a lot less money but my hope for a truely open but still awesome phone system lead me to buy Jolla.

My hope, maybe a bit naive, was that Jolla would become what Openmoko should have been. But it seems that Jolla just took what the open source community had to offer and added their (beautiful but) proprietary UI System.

Update: rephrased my question to be a little less polemic.

Update: Quote of the License Section on the Sailfish Site: Our goal with the Sailfish OS is to develop an open source operating system in co-operation with the community, thus ensuring the development of a best-of-breed operating system.

Is the above Statement still true or not?

Which parts of Sailfish are closed source, why and will that change?

I recently saw a list of packages sorted by license and at first glance anything remotely Jolla specific was closed source. I'm more than a bit disappointed by this. It seems even android has a larger percentage of open sourced core applications. Is there any plan to make this Situation better?

Let me elaborate a little on my question. Of cause it is polemic but the core is very serious. I preordered my Jolla because i was looking for a phone that was open "unlike" ios, android, windows... Jolla allways emphasizing their collaboration with the open source community seemed to be that phone. I could have gotten much better hardware and software features for quite a lot less money but my hope for a truely open but still awesome phone system lead me to buy Jolla.

My hope, maybe a bit naive, was that Jolla would become what Openmoko should have been. But it seems that Jolla just took what the open source community had to offer and added their (beautiful but) proprietary UI System.

Update: rephrased my question to be a little less polemic.

Update: Quote of the License Section on the Sailfish Site: Our goal with the Sailfish OS is to develop an open source operating system in co-operation with the community, thus ensuring the development of a best-of-breed operating system.

Is the above Statement still true or not?not?

Which parts of Sailfish are closed source, why and will that change?

I recently saw a list of packages sorted by license and at first glance anything remotely Jolla specific was closed source. I'm more than a bit disappointed by this. It seems even android has a larger percentage of open sourced core applications. Is there any plan to make this Situation better?

Let me elaborate a little on my question. Of cause it is polemic but the core is very serious. I preordered my Jolla because i was looking for a phone that was open "unlike" ios, android, windows... Jolla allways emphasizing their collaboration with the open source community seemed to be that phone. I could have gotten much better hardware and software features for quite a lot less money but my hope for a truely open but still awesome phone system lead me to buy Jolla.

My hope, maybe a bit naive, was that Jolla would become what Openmoko should have been. But it seems that Jolla just took what the open source community had to offer and added their (beautiful but) proprietary UI System.

Update: rephrased my question to be a little less polemic.

Update: Quote of the License Section on the Sailfish Site: Our goal with the Sailfish OS is to develop an open source operating system in co-operation with the community, thus ensuring the development of a best-of-breed operating system.

Is the above Statement still true or not? not?

Which parts of Sailfish are closed source, why and will that change?

I recently saw a list of packages sorted by license and at first glance anything remotely Jolla specific was closed source. I'm more than a bit disappointed by this. It seems even android has a larger percentage of open sourced core applications. Is there any plan to make this Situation better?

Let me elaborate a little on my question. Of cause it is polemic but the core is very serious. I preordered my Jolla because i was looking for a phone that was open "unlike" ios, android, windows... Jolla allways emphasizing their collaboration with the open source community seemed to be that phone. I could have gotten much better hardware and software features for quite a lot less money but my hope for a truely open but still awesome phone system lead me to buy Jolla.

My hope, maybe a bit naive, was that Jolla would become what Openmoko should have been. But it seems that Jolla just took what the open source community had to offer and added their (beautiful but) proprietary UI System.

Update: rephrased my question to be a little less polemic.

Update: Quote of the License Section on the Sailfish Site: Our goal with the Sailfish OS is to develop an open source operating system in co-operation with the community, thus ensuring the development of a best-of-breed operating system.

Is the above Statement still true or not?not?

Which parts of Sailfish are closed source, why and will that change?

I recently saw a list of packages sorted by license and at first glance anything remotely Jolla specific was closed source. I'm more than a bit disappointed by this. It seems even android has a larger percentage of open sourced core applications. Is there any plan to make this Situation better?

Let me elaborate a little on my question. Of cause it is polemic but the core is very serious. I preordered my Jolla because i was looking for a phone that was open "unlike" ios, android, windows... Jolla allways emphasizing their collaboration with the open source community seemed to be that phone. I could have gotten much better hardware and software features for quite a lot less money but my hope for a truely open but still awesome phone system lead me to buy Jolla.

My hope, maybe a bit naive, was that Jolla would become what Openmoko should have been. But it seems that Jolla just took what the open source community had to offer and added their (beautiful but) proprietary UI System.

Update: rephrased my question to be a little less polemic.

Update: Quote of the License Section on the Sailfish Site: Our goal with the Sailfish OS is to develop an open source operating system in co-operation with the community, thus ensuring the development of a best-of-breed operating system.

Is the above Statement still true or not?

Which parts of Sailfish are closed source, why and will that change?

I recently saw a list of packages sorted by license and at first glance anything remotely Jolla specific was closed source. I'm more than a bit disappointed by this. It seems even android has a larger percentage of open sourced core applications. Is there any plan to make this Situation better?

Let me elaborate a little on my question. Of cause it is polemic but the core is very serious. I preordered my Jolla because i was looking for a phone that was open "unlike" ios, android, windows... Jolla allways emphasizing their collaboration with the open source community seemed to be that phone. I could have gotten much better hardware and software features for quite a lot less money but my hope for a truely open but still awesome phone system lead me to buy Jolla.

My hope, maybe a bit naive, was that Jolla would become what Openmoko should have been. But it seems that Jolla just took what the open source community had to offer and added their (beautiful but) proprietary UI System.

Update: rephrased my question to be a little less polemic.

Update: Quote of the License Section on the Sailfish Site: Our goal with the Sailfish OS is to develop an open source operating system in co-operation with the community, thus ensuring the development of a best-of-breed operating system.

Is the above Statement still true or not? not?

Which parts of Sailfish are closed source, why and will that change?

I recently saw a list of packages sorted by license and at first glance anything remotely Jolla specific was closed source. I'm more than a bit disappointed by this. It seems even android has a larger percentage of open sourced core applications. Is there any plan to make this Situation better?

Let me elaborate a little on my question. Of cause it is polemic but the core is very serious. I preordered my Jolla because i was looking for a phone that was open "unlike" ios, android, windows... Jolla allways emphasizing their collaboration with the open source community seemed to be that phone. I could have gotten much better hardware and software features for quite a lot less money but my hope for a truely open but still awesome phone system lead me to buy Jolla.

My hope, maybe a bit naive, was that Jolla would become what Openmoko should have been. But it seems that Jolla just took what the open source community had to offer and added their (beautiful but) proprietary UI System.

Update: rephrased my question to be a little less polemic.

Update: Quote of the License Section on the Sailfish Site: Our goal with the Sailfish OS is to develop an open source operating system in co-operation with the community, thus ensuring the development of a best-of-breed operating system.

Is the above Statement still true or not?not?

Which parts of Sailfish are closed source, why and will that change?

I recently saw a list of packages sorted by license and at first glance anything remotely Jolla specific was closed source. I'm more than a bit disappointed by this. It seems even android has a larger percentage of open sourced core applications. Is there any plan to make this Situation better?

Let me elaborate a little on my question. Of cause it is polemic but the core is very serious. I preordered my Jolla because i was looking for a phone that was open "unlike" ios, android, windows... Jolla allways emphasizing their collaboration with the open source community seemed to be that phone. I could have gotten much better hardware and software features for quite a lot less money but my hope for a truely open but still awesome phone system lead me to buy Jolla.Jolla.

My hope, maybe a bit naive, was that Jolla would become what Openmoko should have been. But it seems that Jolla just took what the open source community had to offer and added their (beautiful but) proprietary UI System.

Update: rephrased my question to be a little less polemic.

Update: Quote of the License Section on the Sailfish Site: Our goal with the Sailfish OS is to develop an open source operating system in co-operation with the community, thus ensuring the development of a best-of-breed operating system.

Is the above Statement still true or not?

Which parts of Sailfish are closed source, why and will that change?

I recently saw a list of packages sorted by license and at first glance anything remotely Jolla specific was closed source. I'm more than a bit disappointed by this. It seems even android has a larger percentage of open sourced core applications. Is there any plan to make this Situation better?

Let me elaborate a little on my question. Of cause it is polemic but the core is very serious. I preordered my Jolla because i was looking for a phone that was open "unlike" ios, android, windows... Jolla allways emphasizing their collaboration with the open source community seemed to be that phone. I could have gotten much better hardware and software features for quite a lot less money but my hope for a truely open but still awesome phone system lead me to buy Jolla.

My hope, maybe a bit naive, was that Jolla would become what Openmoko should have been. But it seems that Jolla just took what the open source community had to offer and added their (beautiful but) proprietary UI System.

Update: rephrased my question to be a little less polemic.

Update: Quote of the License Section on the Sailfish Site: Our goal with the Sailfish OS is to develop an open source operating system in co-operation with the community, thus ensuring the development of a best-of-breed operating system.

Is the above Statement still true or not? not?

Which parts of Sailfish are closed source, why and will that change?

I recently saw a list of packages sorted by license and at first glance anything remotely Jolla specific was closed source. I'm more than a bit disappointed by this. It seems even android has a larger percentage of open sourced core applications. Is there any plan to make this Situation better?

Let me elaborate a little on my question. Of cause it is polemic but the core is very serious. I preordered my Jolla because i was looking for a phone that was open "unlike" ios, android, windows... Jolla allways emphasizing their collaboration with the open source community seemed to be that phone. I could have gotten much better hardware and software features for quite a lot less money but my hope for a truely open but still awesome phone system lead me to buy Jolla.

My hope, maybe a bit naive, was that Jolla would become what Openmoko should have been. But it seems that Jolla just took what the open source community had to offer and added their (beautiful but) proprietary UI System.

Update: rephrased my question to be a little less polemic.

Update: Quote of the License Section on the Sailfish Site: Our goal with the Sailfish OS is to develop an open source operating system in co-operation with the community, thus ensuring the development of a best-of-breed operating system.

Is the above Statement still true or not?not?

Which parts of Sailfish are closed source, why and will that change?

I recently saw a list of packages sorted by license and at first glance anything remotely Jolla specific was closed source. I'm more than a bit disappointed by this. It seems even android has a larger percentage of open sourced core applications. Is there any plan to make this Situation better?

Let me elaborate a little on my question. Of cause it is polemic but the core is very serious. I preordered my Jolla because i was looking for a phone that was open "unlike" ios, android, windows... Jolla allways emphasizing their collaboration with the open source community seemed to be that phone. I could have gotten much better hardware and software features for quite a lot less money but my hope for a truely open but still awesome phone system lead me to buy Jolla.

My hope, maybe a bit naive, was that Jolla would become what Openmoko should have been. But it seems that Jolla just took what the open source community had to offer and added their (beautiful but) proprietary UI System.

Update: rephrased my question to be a little less polemic.

Update: Quote of the License Section on the Sailfish Site: Our goal with the Sailfish OS is to develop an open source operating system in co-operation with the community, thus ensuring the development of a best-of-breed operating system.

Is the above Statement still true or not? not?

Which parts of Sailfish are closed source, why and will that change?

I recently saw a list of packages sorted by license and at first glance anything remotely Jolla specific was closed source. I'm more than a bit disappointed by this. It seems even android has a larger percentage of open sourced core applications. Is there any plan to make this Situation better?

Let me elaborate a little on my question. Of cause it is polemic but the core is very serious. I preordered my Jolla because i was looking for a phone that was open "unlike" ios, android, windows... Jolla allways emphasizing their collaboration with the open source community seemed to be that phone. I could have gotten much better hardware and software features for quite a lot less money but my hope for a truely open but still awesome phone system lead me to buy Jolla. Jolla.

My hope, maybe a bit naive, was that Jolla would become what Openmoko should have been. But it seems that Jolla just took what the open source community had to offer and added their (beautiful but) proprietary UI System.

Update: rephrased my question to be a little less polemic.

Update: Quote of the License Section on the Sailfish Site: Our goal with the Sailfish OS is to develop an open source operating system in co-operation with the community, thus ensuring the development of a best-of-breed operating system.

Is the above Statement still true or not?

Which parts of Sailfish are closed source, why and will that change?

I recently saw a list of packages sorted by license and at first glance anything remotely Jolla specific was closed source. I'm more than a bit disappointed by this. It seems even android has a larger percentage of open sourced core applications. Is there any plan to make this Situation better?

Let me elaborate a little on my question. Of cause it is polemic but the core is very serious. I preordered my Jolla because i was looking for a phone that was open "unlike" ios, android, windows... Jolla allways emphasizing their collaboration with the open source community seemed to be that phone. I could have gotten much better hardware and software features for quite a lot less money but my hope for a truely open but still awesome phone system lead me to buy Jolla.

My hope, maybe a bit naive, was that Jolla would become what Openmoko should have been. But it seems that Jolla just took what the open source community had to offer and added their (beautiful but) proprietary UI System.

Update: rephrased my question to be a little less polemic.

Update: Quote of the License Section on the Sailfish Site: Our goal with the Sailfish OS is to develop an open source operating system in co-operation with the community, thus ensuring the development of a best-of-breed operating system.

Is the above Statement still true or not?not? Update: from what i have seen so far Apple has the same legitimation to call MacOS truely open as Jolla with Sailfish: Both use an open source base system (and contribute to it) and both build their closed system and apps on top.

Which parts of Sailfish are closed source, why and will that change?

I recently saw a list of packages sorted by license and at first glance anything remotely Jolla specific was closed source. I'm more than a bit disappointed by this. It seems even android has a larger percentage of open sourced core applications. Is there any plan to make this Situation better?

Let me elaborate a little on my question. Of cause it is polemic but the core is very serious. I preordered my Jolla because i was looking for a phone that was open "unlike" ios, android, windows... Jolla allways emphasizing their collaboration with the open source community seemed to be that phone. I could have gotten much better hardware and software features for quite a lot less money but my hope for a truely open but still awesome phone system lead me to buy Jolla.

My hope, maybe a bit naive, was that Jolla would become what Openmoko should have been. But it seems that Jolla just took what the open source community had to offer and added their (beautiful but) proprietary UI System.

Update: rephrased my question to be a little less polemic.

Update: Quote of the License Section on the Sailfish Site: Our goal with the Sailfish OS is to develop an open source operating system in co-operation with the community, thus ensuring the development of a best-of-breed operating system.

Is the above Statement still true or not? not?

Update: from what i have seen so far Apple has the same legitimation to call MacOS truely open as Jolla with Sailfish: Both use an open source base system (and contribute to it) and both build their closed system and apps on top.