Issue #1: Jolla Survival Plan (failure is not an option) [released 2015-12-18] [released]

Even if it is not, the risk of investing in Jolla for Nokia is almost zero (those amounts are drops in the sea for them) but the possible outcome of getting an innovative OS on their future devices could turn out as a game changer for the mobile industry.

Definitely worth a shot. Would be surprised if they have not tried this already.

@tortoisedoc: Indeed, they may be in talks with Nokia. Nokia is still under legal obligation to remain silent about any smartphone plans (because of the Microsoft deal). But as far as I understand they would be allowed to officially announce a smarphone in 2016.

As Giacomo said, it's a completely logical option, and I have faith in both Jolla and Nokia to follow that strategy, if it's worth it from their respective points of view.

To be honest, I don't think Nokia management is smart enough to catch the opportunity.

Today I had exactly the same idea. Europe (among others) should be serious about having the choice of independence regarding today's number one data gathering tools, smartphones and tablets. Sometimes I wonder, do we really care that little to just hand it over to the big ones?

Like mentioned below, there is funding for R&D in most of european countries. Jolla should definitely try to apply for such funding and develop new products. Though, this is not a short term solution.

the company i work in runs multiple projects that are partly ( 25%) payed by eu. prototypes,new product features ... i talk here about eu money for research and development. so mobile operating system from europe should be on eu agenda

Right! There's nothing new or special about EU projects.

Yes, keep the data within the EU! See here: http://www.europe-v-facebook.org/EN/en.html

this one made me smile :-)

Right Christmas spirit -made me also smile :)

+1

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I guess he leaves because the tablet and the depending 2.0 GUI changes

@poddl: It that really was the disagreement they had then I think Mr. Dillon's judgement was correct. The tablet is not a bad idea, but it came too early. Another phone with (much) better HW should have come first, be it from a 3rd party or Jolla.

dont know how they could do that with no money

Even with both tires busted, the spokes ripped off, the frame broken and a bleeding knee I would walk the final 10 meters to pass flamme rouge!

then go to china somehow get them to produce the tablets for you (maybe u can access the fab and make them all yourself) and walk them back home gl.

seriously I think if they could push through with the tablet they would. this is not something to be on a survival plan. it comes right after surviving

@lakutalo: That's the spirit :-) Indeed I think Jolla should really try EVERYTHING. A start would be to calculate how much money more they need per ordered tablet and publish that number. If it is say 100.- Euro I would certainly consider donating that money to make it possible for a fellow sailor to get his tablet. They could write my name on the box so he knows who helped him :-) Thinking about it, I think I will writet this up as an answer!

Jolla could also ask for non-financial help like volunteers for boxing the tablet. Just like cybette did for the office move: https://together.jolla.com/question/122860/in-helsinki-heres-one-way-to-help-jolla-on-2611-office-move/

You know, I've thought about that as well, “A bird in the hand...”. I'd rather pay 100 bugs extra to finally get my hands on the very thing, instead of losing about 300 for nothing. I don't think that's already a gambler's dilemma.

The only problem with this is that Jolla should not jeopardize community's faith with the tablet campaign prior to any new hardware campaign. Then of course, this would be highly possible.

Who's going to support a crowdfunding campaign from a company that has failed to deliver a previous campaign?

Jolla seriously lost the support and goodwill it enjoyed. Not only because they failed to deliver so far, but also for failing to communicate with the backers.

I seriously doubt that any crowdfunding platform will allow a company in debt restructuring (basically the final stage before bankruptcy) to start a campaign.

I may still consider buying a Sailfish phone, but only with strict assurance that I only pay when the phone is delivered.

A cheap phone is no-go. People that would buy a jolla as alternative normally have an iPhone or Galaxy and are fed up with the eco-system that is either proprietary or data - greedy.

No. Please no more new cell phone (or any HW). Focus all resources on the development of SFOS and efforts to license it and push it into usable HW of well established brands.

I agree with @cocovina. Any new HW will only take away the focus from making SFOS better (for the community, and more attractive for investors). The tablet should be tried as hard as possible to ship because it was promised and is basically ready... But new HW project will only take away the focus from what is needed

a) price should be 199 incl. shipping b) a lot of people would need a guaranteed shipping after payment do not know how much effort it would be to pay on delivery. with a company back to wall .., i had to wait 3-4 weeks in february till phone came. nowadays would be very nervous

.... actually I wanted to - but I'm in doubts they'll deliver :/

I like the idea. Still considering. I actually wanted to wait for the Index phone, to obtain a "future ready" phone. I might have to reconsider now.

edit: I guess for those unsure about the delivery: Just pay with PayPal and you basically have a 180 days money back guarantee, in case something goes wrong.

And if you notice an 'Out of stock', don't give up! Just wait and come back after a couple of days.

+1 Generally a good idea. I agree with @pawel. The price cannot exceed 199 Euros including VAT and shipping. I think that's the magic price limit.