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Native Opera

asked 2016-03-10 10:30:14 +0200

koolas gravatar image

There used to be one for Maemo, and would be nice towhy can't we have one for Jolla? The thing with Opera is that it proven to be most reliable, and fast. I really wanted to use Jolla browser, but it's slower, and pages hung up sometimed. These things are not

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As far as I can make out, Opera doesn't have Wayland support, so it doesn't look like it would work on Sailfish. Firefox and Chromium (Ozone-wayland) do however.

nadir ( 2016-03-10 10:56:25 +0200 )edit
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We'll have to petition their (soon to be) chinese overloads requesting them to make it available on our beloved Sailfish OS phones too ... then again, now that Opera is an advertising company, and use their browser as a spyware (to create browsing profiles of their users and "sell" to advertisers), we need to discourage people from using it. (If you really want to, the older android version of Opera 12 works fine on Sailfish for me. I think the newer chrome based versions should also work fine.)

sifartech ( 2016-03-10 11:32:00 +0200 )edit

Opera Mini is best mobile browser. I used to have it when I still had android support. I always used the Opera Turbo feature so traffic would go through Opera servers where they compressed/formatted/downscaled it. This let me browse the web with 2G easily. Awesome for battery too! Native Opera would be great! I don't mind adds, if I recall correctly they were on landing page or unobstrusive.

alloj ( 2016-03-10 13:24:03 +0200 )edit

i used opera on my n8 and i really miss it. webcat is ok but... browsing with 2g and turbo, really nice

NuklearFart ( 2016-03-10 16:53:59 +0200 )edit

@alloj - I am successfully using the android version of Yandex Opera Mini without any issues. It is the same Opera Mini rebranded by Yandex. (P.S: Please use your own judgement before downloading from the posted link - I haven't verified if the posted apk there is safe.)

sifartech ( 2016-03-10 21:53:02 +0200 )edit

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answered 2018-12-17 13:51:16 +0200

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There is Otter Browser a qt based Browser. There is actually already a rpm installation package, but when you try to install it under Sailfish OS, you get an error. Probably the package would have to be adapted to Sailfish os. Nobody there who could compile the package? Would be awesome!

https://github.com/OtterBrowser/otter-browser

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I've heard of Otter Browser before. It looks really promising, and it has active developmers, too! One issue right off the bat is that it is switching over to Qt 5.12 as we speak, which isn't supported by Sailfish OS at the moment, but I guess custom built libs are okay, too...

Then there is the SFOS integration. Every UI element must be converted to QML, and that's only the cherry on top of the cake!

I wish I had the time to tackle this...

Direc ( 2018-12-17 14:05:03 +0200 )edit
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Then again. If we could utilise newer QtWebEngine (?) builds, that would fix many a rendering issue.

Direc ( 2018-12-17 14:06:46 +0200 )edit

So we just need somebody adapting Otter Browser and then we would have an awesome open source "Opera"like browser for our Sailfish OS device :P

Firefox84 ( 2018-12-17 21:53:03 +0200 )edit

There are a plethora of browsers built on top of Qt. Midori Browser is one example.

I think the issue is not the engine (to some extent it is not) but the wrapping it comes in...

Direc ( 2018-12-18 17:13:54 +0200 )edit
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answered 2016-03-10 12:56:44 +0200

tvicol gravatar image

updated 2016-03-10 16:04:26 +0200

The team which was at Opera is now at Vivaldi. The right place to ask for a native browser is now at https://vivaldi.com/

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It doesn't look like that supports wayland either.

nadir ( 2016-03-10 13:14:08 +0200 )edit
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who said it supports wayland ? ask and you may get.

tvicol ( 2016-03-10 13:17:10 +0200 )edit
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Until Vivaldi clearly reveals their business model on how they plan to make money, it would be best to avoid it to. They too have opted for the lazy and quick-fix way of using Google's spy engine (aka Chromium / Blink) just like Opera did. Everytime you open Vivaldi, it contacts Google ... if something is being offered free to you on the net, your personal data is the currency paying for it ...

sifartech ( 2016-03-10 21:59:49 +0200 )edit

My question here was because what I would like to happen is that you Sailfish guys to directly talk to Opera guys. I just gave you donation (the money for the tablet that I never got) and if I were to decide what you should use that money on I would say bring Opera to Sailfish and stop wasting money on built in browser. As I remember in Nokia times Opera was Nokia partner. Now you're not Nokia anymore, but does it mean you cannot partner with Opera?

koolas ( 2016-03-11 01:46:26 +0200 )edit

@sifartech as far I know Blink is a fork of apple's WebKit and very open source and as long code is open I'll not consider to be "spy engine". FYI "spying" in applications is done to collect usage statistics and bugs. Real spying is happen in dedicated traffic monitoring centers ...

tvicol ( 2016-03-11 10:13:06 +0200 )edit
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answered 2018-12-17 13:16:36 +0200

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As far as I can make out, Opera doesn't have Wayland support, so it doesn't look like it would work on Sailfish. Firefox and Chromium (Ozone-wayland) do however.

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