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Facebook XMPP support soon to die, plans for SailfishOS?

asked 2015-02-04 08:14:08 +0200

keithzg gravatar image

updated 2015-03-24 02:39:27 +0200

According to https://developers.facebook.com/docs/chat, the chat API (ie. Facebook's XMPP support) is deprecated and will stop working once API v1.0 is retired. According to https://developers.facebook.com/docs/apps/changelog, this is set to happen on 2015-04-30, so only a handful of months from now.

Are there any plans for the built-in Facebook chat support for when this happens? (Assuming I'm not crazy thinking it's currently using XMPP). It does appear that there are alternate methods now available to read messages (see for example https://developers.facebook.com/docs/graph-api/reference/v2.2/user/inbox) but I'll admit I have no idea whether those methods are viable for an IM client or how much work they'd be to implement.

UPDATE: Confirmed on mailing list that Jolla knows this functionality is dying and is investigating future actions: https://lists.sailfishos.org/pipermail/devel/2015-March/005875.html

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Google +? :D i started to hate Facebook. it's all about the ads, nothing else anymore...

Makeclick ( 2015-02-04 16:26:24 +0200 )edit

FB is still widely used and Google thoroughly hated. But a proper G+ app would be nice. The Google chat (Hangouts, what ever) already works great (some bugs with the login-logout issue), so it's already there.

raketti ( 2015-02-04 16:55:02 +0200 )edit
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@Makeclick You must be kidding :-D What do you think Google is all about?

moosiqpipl ( 2015-02-04 17:03:33 +0200 )edit
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Just drop it.

Blizzz ( 2015-02-04 17:32:46 +0200 )edit

@moosiqpipl :D i didn't think that way, but yeah. it is still better and not so forced to watch ads before you can see your thinhs (i mean that shorting by most popular / latest e.g.)

Makeclick ( 2015-02-05 06:17:08 +0200 )edit

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answered 2015-09-21 11:34:30 +0200

tonireha gravatar image

I was going to ask about someone building purple-facebook for telepathy-haze, and it turned out @nodevel just did! It's available from openrepos now. I just installed it and while I haven't tried sending any messages yet, my contacts shows up as online :)

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Unluckily It seems this plugin leads to an abnormal battery draining. When I go online, contactsd reaches a whopping 30% of CPU usage then it stays on an average of 20%. cc @nodevel

can anybody confirm it?

fravaccaro ( 2015-09-21 13:14:28 +0200 )edit

@fravaccaro That would be unfortunate. A bigger issue is that messages are not marked as read, therefore are received over and over again, on every reconnection (until marked read on the web).

Regarding the plugin, it is just a pure build of the latest version, so probably not much can be done on my side.

nodevel ( 2015-09-21 17:03:34 +0200 )edit

Works fine but no group messages. :( This makes the telepathy haze facebook plugin useless for me. On my desktop pidgin app group chat works fine, I believe there can be a solution.

cuh7b5 ( 2016-08-10 11:24:45 +0200 )edit
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answered 2015-03-24 03:27:53 +0200

WhyNotHugo gravatar image

Since SailfishOS uses telephathy for messaging, this actually needs to be dealt with by telepathy (though Jolla can, of course, contribute code that uses the Graph API upstream).

However, I'm guessing that this won't happen anytime soon. Your choices are:

  • The Android Facebook Messenger app.
  • The web-based interface. Not remotely as friendly, honestly, but maybe more battery friendly (not sure).

I'm guessing that we'll eventually see telepathy support, since several mobile and desktop apps depend on it and will be losing support too. We can also dream that facebook might release a native app.

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I installed FB Messenger a couple of days ago, again. It still drains the battery pretty darn fast and rebooted my Jolla twice when trying to send a message.

It's just a huge pile of crap and I can't understand how someone can even code something so horribly.

sevanteri ( 2015-03-24 11:18:04 +0200 )edit
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this is how facebook moves their services into their turf and maintain control. I for one will not miss FB messaging if this is how FB wants to treat their end users. we always have a choice.

droll ( 2015-03-24 12:58:05 +0200 )edit

@sevanteri The battery drain comes with most (all?) Android apps. AFAIK, it's actually the android VM that's pretty CPU-hungry. That aside, I believe that the UI is designed according to Android's guidelines, which is why we see it so alien (or simply, horrible).

That said, yes, it's an awful alternative. I'm merely listing our choices, which seem to be few, and ugly.

WhyNotHugo ( 2015-03-26 05:50:45 +0200 )edit
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I would say that the Messenger app has never been much trouble for me on Android itself (never crashed for me, much less rebooted my system), and in fact the chat-heads functionality adds a sort of window layering that I wish was normal on phone OS's, or at least the mainstream ones (SailfishOS doesn't need it as much thanks to the fluidity of swipe-based interaction). But no denying it's buggy on the Android VM on SailfishOS, and one of the upsides of SailfishOS versus the mainstream platforms was how multiple messaging services were bundled into the default messaging app like on the N9 and N900. It's not Jolla's fault that the world is moving further and further away from open standards for communications, but I do hope they and/or others are able to add Facebook support back to Telepathy using the current Facebook APIs. From my own reading of the API documentation it seems like it should be possible; I could be overly optimistic here though.

keithzg ( 2015-03-26 20:51:25 +0200 )edit

So, there also isn´t anymore alternative "messenger" for FB but messenger with Android?

Calsu ( 2015-04-21 14:31:54 +0200 )edit
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