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1 | initial version | posted 2017-11-19 00:43:02 +0200 |
Hi there, today I bought an Xperia X and installed Sailfish OS on it with Homebrew and a Mac. I´m not really IT skilled but very courious person willing to try out this new OS and I have to admit, that installing it wasn´t that easy for me, but it worked at the first try as described on the Jolla/Sailfish website.
I was quite happy and a little bit proud about it after the installation, but then I found out very soon, that this aquisition might not have been worth the price I paid. The Xperia X isn't bad as a mobile phone - as long as Android 7.1 is on it. If you buy Sailfish OS for some other 50 Euros you get a smartphone which isn't smart anymore IMHO.
You can make phone calls, send sms, email etc. - well that's basically it - if you are not installing android apps. But to install andoid apps, I could have kept Nougat 7.1, too. Don't misunderstand me. I would like to support this other smartphone OS, but if you pay some 250-300 Euros for the phone and 50 Euros for the OS, you can expect more.
I'll definitely give Sailfish OS a second chance and try it out for some time getting to know this OS better, but it's impossible to make it my first phone for everyday usage, yet. Most of apps in the jolly store aren't even worth joking about IMHO.
Android apps could be an alternative for some time, but unlike on Nougat 7.1.1. on Sailfish OS you have to accept all the permissions the andoid apps are asking for, without being able to take them partially away. This is even possible on Google's OS.
Well enough for know. As I said, I'll give it another try, but I hope that the Sailfish guys will make lot's of efforts to deliver value for money.
Then the Sailfish browser allows only Google, Bing, Yahoo and Yandex as search engines. Are you kidding? Why not allow DuckDuckGo or Ixquick for example instead of those usual suspects?? I really don't understand this. This simply doesn't look thrustworthy to me.
So my conclusion for now: I mutilated a well working android phone to have little more tha a dumbphone.
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Hi there, today I bought an Xperia X and installed Sailfish OS on it with Homebrew and a Mac. I´m not really IT skilled but very courious person willing to try out this new OS and I have to admit, that installing it wasn´t that easy for me, but it worked at the first try as described on the Jolla/Sailfish website.
I was quite happy and a little bit proud about it after the installation, but then I found out very soon, that this aquisition might not have been worth the price I paid. The Xperia X isn't bad as a mobile phone - as long as Android 7.1 is on it. If you buy Sailfish OS for some other 50 Euros you get a smartphone which isn't smart anymore IMHO.
You can make phone calls, send sms, email etc. - well that's basically it - if you are not installing android apps. But to install andoid apps, I could have kept Nougat 7.1, too. Don't misunderstand me. I would like to support this other smartphone OS, but if you pay some 250-300 Euros for the phone and 50 Euros for the OS, you can expect more.
I'll definitely give Sailfish OS a second chance and try it out for some time getting to know this OS better, but it's impossible to make it my first phone for everyday usage, yet. Most of apps in the jolly store aren't even worth joking about IMHO.
Android apps could be an alternative for some time, but unlike on Nougat 7.1.1. on Sailfish OS you have to accept all the permissions the andoid apps are asking for, without being able to take them partially away. This is even possible on Google's OS.
Well enough for know. As I said, I'll give it another try, but I hope that the Sailfish guys will make lot's of efforts to deliver value for money.
Then the Sailfish browser allows only Google, Bing, Yahoo and Yandex as search engines. Are you kidding? Why not allow DuckDuckGo or Ixquick for example instead of those usual suspects?? I really don't understand this. This simply doesn't look thrustworthy to me.
So my conclusion for now: I mutilated a well working android phone to have little more tha a dumbphone. Well enough for know. As I said, I'll give it another try, but I hope that the Sailfish guys will make lot's of efforts to deliver value for money.
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Hi there, today I bought an Xperia X and installed Sailfish OS on it with Homebrew and a Mac. I´m not really IT skilled but very courious person willing to try out this new OS and I have to admit, that installing it wasn´t that easy for me, but it worked at the first try as described on the Jolla/Sailfish website.
I was quite happy and a little bit proud about it after the installation, but then I found out very soon, that this aquisition might not have been worth the price I paid. The Xperia X isn't bad as a mobile phone - as long as Android 7.1 is on it. If you buy Sailfish OS for some other 50 Euros you get a smartphone which isn't smart anymore IMHO.
You can make phone calls, send sms, email etc. - well that's basically it - if you are not installing android apps. But to install andoid apps, I could have kept Nougat 7.1, too. Don't misunderstand me. I would like to support this other smartphone OS, but if you pay some 250-300 Euros for the phone and 50 Euros for the OS, you can expect more.
I'll definitely give Sailfish OS a second chance and try it out for some time getting to know this OS better, but it's impossible to make it my first phone for everyday usage, yet. Most of apps in the jolly store aren't even worth joking about IMHO.
Android apps could be an alternative for some time, but unlike on Nougat 7.1.1. on Sailfish OS you have to accept all the permissions the andoid apps are asking for, without being able to take them partially away. This is even possible on Google's OS.
Then the Sailfish browser allows only Google, Bing, Yahoo and Yandex as search engines. Are you kidding? Why not allow DuckDuckGo or Ixquick for example instead of those usual suspects?? I really don't understand this. This simply doesn't look thrustworthy to me.
So my conclusion for now: I mutilated a well working android phone to have little more tha than a dumbphone.
Well enough for know. As I said, I'll give it another try, but I hope that the Sailfish guys will make lot's of efforts to deliver value for money.
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Hi there, today I bought an Xperia X and installed Sailfish OS on it with Homebrew and a Mac. I´m not really IT skilled but very courious person willing to try out this new OS and I have to admit, that installing it wasn´t that easy for me, but it worked at the first try as described on the Jolla/Sailfish website.
I was quite happy and a little bit proud about it after the installation, but then I found out very soon, that this aquisition might not have been worth the price I paid. The Xperia X isn't bad as a mobile phone - as long as Android 7.1 is on it. If you buy Sailfish OS for some other 50 Euros you get a smartphone which isn't smart anymore IMHO.
You can make phone calls, send sms, email etc. - well that's basically it - if you are not installing android apps. But to install andoid apps, I could have kept Nougat 7.1, too. Don't misunderstand me. I would like to support this other smartphone OS, but if you pay some 250-300 Euros for the phone and 50 Euros for the OS, you can expect more.
I'll definitely give Sailfish OS a second chance and try it out for some time getting to know this OS better, but it's impossible to make it my first phone for everyday usage, yet. Most of apps in the jolly store aren't even worth joking about IMHO.
Android apps could be an alternative for some time, but unlike on Nougat 7.1.1. on Sailfish OS you have to accept all the permissions the andoid apps are asking for, without being able to take them partially away. This is even possible on Google's OS.
Then the Sailfish browser allows only Google, Bing, Yahoo and Yandex as search engines. Are you kidding? Why not allow DuckDuckGo or Ixquick for example instead of those usual suspects?? I really don't understand this. This simply doesn't look thrustworthy to me.
So my conclusion for now: I mutilated a well working android phone to have little more than a dumbphone. Well enough for know. As I said, I'll give it another try, but I hope that the Sailfish guys will make lot's of efforts to deliver value for money.
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Hi there, today I bought an Xperia X and installed Sailfish OS on it with Homebrew and a Mac. I´m not really IT skilled but very courious person willing to try out this new OS and I have to admit, that installing it wasn´t that easy for me, but it worked at the first try as described on the Jolla/Sailfish website.
I was quite happy and a little bit proud about it after the installation, but then I found out very soon, that this aquisition might not have been worth the price I paid. The Xperia X isn't bad as a mobile phone - as long as Android 7.1 is on it. If you buy Sailfish OS for some other 50 Euros you get a smartphone which isn't smart anymore IMHO.
You can make phone calls, send sms, email etc. - well that's basically it - if you are not installing android apps. But to install andoid apps, I could have kept Nougat 7.1, too. Don't misunderstand me. I would like to support this other smartphone OS, but if you pay some 250-300 Euros for the phone and 50 Euros for the OS, you can expect more.
I'll definitely give Sailfish OS a second chance and try it out for some time getting to know this OS better, but it's impossible to make it my first phone for everyday usage, yet. Most of the apps in the jolly jolla store aren't even worth joking about IMHO.
Android apps could be an alternative for some time, but unlike on Nougat 7.1.1. on Sailfish OS you have to accept all the permissions the andoid apps are asking for, without being able to take them partially away. This is even possible on Google's OS.
Then the Sailfish browser allows only Google, Bing, Yahoo and Yandex as search engines. Are you kidding? Why not allow DuckDuckGo or Ixquick for example instead of those usual suspects?? I really don't understand this. This simply doesn't look thrustworthy to me.
On the other hand, they said bluettoth wasn't officially supported. But I was able to pair my Bose QC35 headphones. That's good news, at least. Tmorrow I'll try to pair the hand free / sound system in my car.
So my conclusion for now: I mutilated a well working android phone to have little more than a dumbphone. Well enough for know. As I said, I'll give it another try, but I hope that the Sailfish guys will make lot's of efforts to deliver value for money.
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Hi there, today I bought an Xperia X and installed Sailfish OS on it with Homebrew and a Mac. I´m not really IT skilled but very courious person willing to try out this new OS and I have to admit, that installing it wasn´t that easy for me, but it worked at the first try as described on the Jolla/Sailfish website.
I was quite happy and a little bit proud about it after the installation, but then I found out very soon, that this aquisition might not have been worth the price I paid. The Xperia X isn't bad as a mobile phone - as long as Android 7.1 is on it. If you buy Sailfish OS for some other 50 Euros you get a smartphone which isn't smart anymore IMHO.
You can make phone calls, send sms, email etc. - well that's basically it - if you are not installing android apps. But to install andoid apps, I could have kept Nougat 7.1, too. Don't misunderstand me. I would like to support this other smartphone OS, but if you pay some 250-300 Euros for the phone and 50 Euros for the OS, you can expect more.
I'll definitely give Sailfish OS a second chance and try it out for some time getting to know this OS better, but it's impossible to make it my first phone for everyday usage, yet. Most of the apps in the jolla store aren't even worth joking about IMHO.
Android apps could be an alternative for some time, but unlike on Nougat 7.1.1. on Sailfish OS you have to accept all the permissions the andoid apps are asking for, without being able to take them partially away. This is even possible on Google's OS.
Then the Sailfish browser allows only Google, Bing, Yahoo and Yandex as search engines. Are you kidding? Why not allow DuckDuckGo or Ixquick for example instead of those usual suspects?? I really don't understand this. This simply doesn't look thrustworthy to me.
On the other hand, they said bluettoth bluetooh wasn't officially supported. But I was able to pair my Bose QC35 headphones. headphones with the Sailfish X. That's good news, at least. Tmorrow Tomorrow I'll try to pair the hand free / sound system in my car.
So my conclusion for now: I mutilated a well working android phone to have little more than a dumbphone. Well enough for know. As I said, I'll give it another try, but I hope that the Sailfish guys will make lot's of efforts to deliver value for money.
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Hi there, today I bought an Xperia X and installed Sailfish OS on it with Homebrew and a Mac. I´m not really IT skilled but very courious person willing to try out this new OS and I have to admit, that installing it wasn´t that easy for me, but it worked at the first try as described on the Jolla/Sailfish website.
I was quite happy and a little bit proud about it after the installation, but then I found out very soon, that this aquisition might not have been worth the price I paid. The Xperia X isn't bad as a mobile phone - as long as Android 7.1 is on it. If you buy Sailfish OS for some other 50 Euros you get a smartphone which isn't smart anymore IMHO.
You can make phone calls, send sms, email etc. - well that's basically it - if you are not installing android apps. But to install andoid apps, I could have kept Nougat 7.1, too. Don't misunderstand me. I would like to support this other smartphone OS, but if you pay some 250-300 Euros for the phone and 50 Euros for the OS, you can expect more.
I'll definitely give Sailfish OS a second chance and try it out for some time getting to know this OS better, but it's impossible to make it my first phone for everyday usage, yet. Most of the apps in the jolla store aren't even worth joking about IMHO.
Android apps could be an alternative for some time, but unlike on Nougat 7.1.1. on Sailfish OS you have to accept all the permissions the andoid apps are asking for, without being able to take them partially away. This is even possible on Google's OS.
Then the Sailfish browser allows only Google, Bing, Yahoo and Yandex as search engines. Are you kidding? Why not allow DuckDuckGo or Ixquick for example instead of those usual suspects?? I really don't understand this. This simply doesn't look thrustworthy to me.
On the other hand, they said Jolla/sailfish say bluetooh wasn't officially supported. But I was able to pair my Bose QC35 headphones with the Sailfish X. That's good news, at least. Tomorrow I'll try to pair the hand free / sound system in my car.
So my conclusion for now: I mutilated a well working android phone to have little more than a dumbphone.
Well Well, enough for know. As I said, I'll give it another try, but I hope that the Sailfish guys will make lot's of efforts to deliver value for money.
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Hi there, today I bought an Xperia X and installed Sailfish OS on it with Homebrew and a Mac. I´m not really IT skilled but very courious curious person willing to try out this new OS and I have to admit, that installing it wasn´t that easy for me, but it worked at the first try as described on the Jolla/Sailfish website.
I was quite happy and a little bit proud about it after the installation, but then I found out very soon, that this aquisition might not have been worth the price I paid. The Xperia X isn't bad as a mobile phone - as long as Android 7.1 is on it. If you buy Sailfish OS for some other 50 Euros you get a smartphone which isn't smart anymore IMHO.
You can make phone calls, send sms, email etc. - well that's basically it - if you are not installing android apps. But to install andoid apps, I could have kept Nougat 7.1, too. Don't misunderstand me. I would like to support this other smartphone OS, but if you pay some 250-300 Euros for the phone and 50 Euros for the OS, you can expect more.
I'll definitely give Sailfish OS a second chance and try it out for some time getting to know this OS better, but it's impossible to make it my first phone for everyday usage, yet. Most of the apps in the jolla store aren't even worth joking about IMHO.
Android apps could be an alternative for some time, but unlike on Nougat 7.1.1. on Sailfish OS you have to accept all the permissions the andoid apps are asking for, without being able to take them partially away. This is even possible on Google's OS.
Then the Sailfish browser allows only Google, Bing, Yahoo and Yandex as search engines. Are you kidding? Why not allow DuckDuckGo or Ixquick for example instead of those usual suspects?? I really don't understand this. This simply doesn't look thrustworthy to me.
On the other hand, Jolla/sailfish say bluetooh wasn't officially supported. But I was able to pair my Bose QC35 headphones with the Sailfish X. That's good news, at least. Tomorrow I'll try to pair the hand free / sound system in my car.
So my conclusion for now: I mutilated a well working android phone to have little more than a dumbphone. Well, enough for know. As I said, I'll give it another try, but I hope that the Sailfish guys will make lot's of efforts to deliver value for money.
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Hi there, today I bought an Xperia X and installed Sailfish OS on it with Homebrew and a Mac. I´m not really IT skilled but very curious person willing to try out this new OS and I have to admit, that installing it wasn´t that easy for me, but it worked at the first try as described on the Jolla/Sailfish website.
I was quite happy and a little bit proud about it after the installation, but then I found out very soon, that this aquisition might not have been worth the price I paid. The Xperia X isn't bad as a mobile phone - as long as Android 7.1 is on it. If you buy Sailfish OS for some other 50 Euros you get a smartphone which isn't smart anymore IMHO.
You can make phone calls, send sms, email etc. - well that's basically it - if you are not installing android apps. But to install andoid apps, I could have kept Nougat 7.1, too. Don't misunderstand me. I would like to support this other smartphone OS, but if you pay some 250-300 Euros for the phone and 50 Euros for the OS, you can expect more.
I'll definitely give Sailfish OS a second chance and try it out for some time getting to know this OS better, but it's impossible to make it my first phone for everyday usage, yet. Most of the apps in the jolla store aren't even worth joking about IMHO.
Android apps could be an alternative for some time, but unlike on Nougat 7.1.1. on Sailfish OS you have to accept all the permissions the andoid apps are asking for, without being able to take them partially away. This is even possible on Google's OS.
Then the Sailfish browser allows only Google, Bing, Yahoo and Yandex as search engines. Are you kidding? Why not allow DuckDuckGo or Ixquick for example instead of those usual suspects?? I really don't understand this. This simply doesn't look thrustworthy to me.
On the other hand, Jolla/sailfish say bluetooh wasn't officially supported. But I was able to pair my Bose QC35 headphones with the Sailfish X. That's good news, at least. Tomorrow I'll try to pair the hand free / sound system in my car.
So my conclusion for now: I mutilated a well working android phone to have little more than a dumbphone. Well, enough for know. As I said, I'll give it another try, but I hope that the Sailfish guys will make lot's of efforts to deliver value for money.
In the meantime I found out that this annoying warning is still showing up: "Your device has been unlocked and can't be trusted". Well is this the cooperation or partnership with Sony, if have been reading about since the Barcelona fair? LOL Anyone any idea how to remove this? May be not. There already is a special thread on this.
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Hi there, today I bought an Xperia X and installed Sailfish OS on it with Homebrew and a Mac. I´m not really IT skilled but very curious person willing to try out this new OS and I have to admit, that installing it wasn´t that easy for me, but it worked at the first try as described on the Jolla/Sailfish website.
I was quite happy and a little bit proud about it after the installation, but then I found out very soon, that this aquisition might not have been worth the price I paid. The Xperia X isn't bad as a mobile phone - as long as Android 7.1 is on it. If you buy Sailfish OS for some other 50 Euros you get a smartphone which isn't smart anymore IMHO.
You can make phone calls, send sms, email etc. - well that's basically it - if you are not installing android apps. But to install andoid apps, I could have kept Nougat 7.1, too. Don't misunderstand me. I would like to support this other smartphone OS, but if you pay some 250-300 Euros for the phone and 50 Euros for the OS, you can expect more.
I'll definitely give Sailfish OS a second chance and try it out for some time getting to know this OS better, but it's impossible to make it my first phone for everyday usage, yet. Most of the apps in the jolla store aren't even worth joking about IMHO.
Android apps could be an alternative for some time, but unlike on Nougat 7.1.1. on Sailfish OS you have to accept all the permissions the andoid apps are asking for, without being able to take them partially away. This is even possible on Google's OS.
Then the Sailfish browser allows only Google, Bing, Yahoo and Yandex as search engines. Are you kidding? Why not allow DuckDuckGo or Ixquick for example instead of those usual suspects?? I really don't understand this. This simply doesn't look thrustworthy to me.
On the other hand, Jolla/sailfish say bluetooh wasn't officially supported. But I was able to pair my Bose QC35 headphones with the Sailfish X. That's good news, at least. Tomorrow I'll try to pair the hand free / sound system in my car.
So my conclusion for now: I mutilated a well working android phone to have little more than a dumbphone. Well, enough for know. As I said, I'll give it another try, but I hope that the Sailfish guys will make lot's of efforts to deliver value for money.
In the meantime I found out that this annoying warning is still showing up: up (see screenshot above): "Your device has been unlocked and can't be trusted". Well is this the cooperation or partnership with Sony, if have been reading about since the Barcelona fair? LOL Anyone any idea how to remove this? May be Maybe not. There already is a special thread on this.
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Hi there, today I bought an Xperia X and installed Sailfish OS on it with Homebrew and a Mac. I´m not really IT skilled but very curious person willing to try out this new OS and I have to admit, that installing it wasn´t that easy for me, but it worked at the first try as described on the Jolla/Sailfish website.
I was quite happy and a little bit proud about it after the installation, but then I found out very soon, that this aquisition might not have been worth the price I paid. The Xperia X isn't bad as a mobile phone - as long as Android 7.1 is on it. If you buy Sailfish OS for some other 50 Euros you get a smartphone which isn't smart anymore IMHO.
You can make phone calls, send sms, email etc. - well that's basically it - if you are not installing android apps. But to install andoid apps, I could have kept Nougat 7.1, too. Don't misunderstand me. I would like to support this other smartphone OS, but if you pay some 250-300 Euros for the phone and 50 Euros for the OS, you can expect more.
I'll definitely give Sailfish OS a second chance and try it out for some time getting to know this OS better, but it's impossible to make it my first phone for everyday usage, yet. Most of the apps in the jolla store aren't even worth joking about IMHO.
Android apps could be an alternative for some time, but unlike on Nougat 7.1.1. on Sailfish OS you have to accept all the permissions the andoid apps are asking for, without being able to take them partially away. This is even possible on Google's OS.
Then the Sailfish browser allows only Google, Bing, Yahoo and Yandex as search engines. Are you kidding? Why not allow DuckDuckGo or Ixquick for example instead of those usual suspects?? I really don't understand this. This simply doesn't look thrustworthy to me.
On the other hand, Jolla/sailfish say bluetooh wasn't officially supported. But I was able to pair my Bose QC35 headphones with the Sailfish X. That's good news, at least. Tomorrow I'll try to pair the hand free / sound system in my car.
So my conclusion for now: I mutilated a well working android phone to have little more than a dumbphone. Well, enough for know. As I said, I'll give it another try, but I hope that the Sailfish guys will make lot's of efforts to deliver value for money.
---update---
In the meantime I found out that this annoying warning is still showing up (see screenshot above): "Your device has been unlocked and can't be trusted". Well is this the cooperation or partnership with Sony, if have been reading about since the Barcelona fair? LOL Anyone any idea how to remove this? Maybe not. There already is a special thread on this.
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Hi there, today I bought an Xperia X and installed Sailfish OS on it with Homebrew and a Mac. I´m not really IT skilled but very curious person willing to try out this new OS and I have to admit, that installing it wasn´t that easy for me, but it worked at the first try as described on the Jolla/Sailfish website.
I was quite happy and a little bit proud about it after the installation, but then I found out very soon, that this aquisition might not have been worth the price I paid. The Xperia X isn't bad as a mobile phone - as long as Android 7.1 is on it. If you buy Sailfish OS for some other 50 Euros you get a smartphone which isn't smart anymore IMHO.
You can make phone calls, send sms, email etc. - well that's basically it - if you are not installing android apps. But to install andoid apps, I could have kept Nougat 7.1, too. Don't misunderstand me. I would like to support this other smartphone OS, but if you pay some 250-300 Euros for the phone and 50 Euros for the OS, you can expect more.
I'll definitely give Sailfish OS a second chance and try it out for some time getting to know this OS better, but it's impossible to make it my first phone for everyday usage, yet. Most of the apps in the jolla store aren't even worth joking about IMHO.
Android apps could be an alternative for some time, but unlike on Nougat 7.1.1. on Sailfish OS you have to accept all the permissions the andoid apps are asking for, without being able to take them partially away. This is even possible on Google's OS.
Then the Sailfish browser allows only Google, Bing, Yahoo and Yandex as search engines. Are you kidding? Why not allow DuckDuckGo or Ixquick for example instead of those usual suspects?? I really don't understand this. This simply doesn't look thrustworthy to me.
On the other hand, Jolla/sailfish say bluetooh wasn't officially supported. But I was able to pair my Bose QC35 headphones with the Sailfish X. That's good news, at least. Tomorrow I'll try to pair the hand free / sound system in my car.
So my conclusion for now: I mutilated a well working android phone to have little more than a dumbphone. Well, enough for know. As I said, I'll give it another try, but I hope that the Sailfish guys will make lot's of efforts to deliver value for money.
---update---
In the meantime I found out that this annoying warning is still showing up (see screenshot above): "Your device has been unlocked and can't be trusted". Well is this the cooperation or partnership with Sony, if have been reading about since the Barcelona fair? LOL Anyone any idea how to remove this? Maybe not. There already is a special thread on this.
---update2---
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Hi there, today I bought an Xperia X and installed Sailfish OS on it with Homebrew and a Mac. I´m not really IT skilled but very curious person willing to try out this new OS and I have to admit, that installing it wasn´t that easy for me, but it worked at the first try as described on the Jolla/Sailfish website.
I was quite happy and a little bit proud about it after the installation, but then I found out very soon, that this aquisition might not have been worth the price I paid. The Xperia X isn't bad as a mobile phone - as long as Android 7.1 is on it. If you buy Sailfish OS for some other 50 Euros you get a smartphone which isn't smart anymore IMHO.
You can make phone calls, send sms, email etc. - well that's basically it - if you are not installing android apps. But to install andoid apps, I could have kept Nougat 7.1, too. Don't misunderstand me. I would like to support this other smartphone OS, but if you pay some 250-300 Euros for the phone and 50 Euros for the OS, you can expect more.
I'll definitely give Sailfish OS a second chance and try it out for some time getting to know this OS better, but it's impossible to make it my first phone for everyday usage, yet. Most of the apps in the jolla store aren't even worth joking about IMHO.
Android apps could be an alternative for some time, but unlike on Nougat 7.1.1. on Sailfish OS you have to accept all the permissions the andoid apps are asking for, without being able to take them partially away. This is even possible on Google's OS.
Then the Sailfish browser allows only Google, Bing, Yahoo and Yandex as search engines. Are you kidding? Why not allow DuckDuckGo or Ixquick for example instead of those usual suspects?? I really don't understand this. This simply doesn't look thrustworthy to me.
On the other hand, Jolla/sailfish say bluetooh wasn't officially supported. But I was able to pair my Bose QC35 headphones with the Sailfish X. That's good news, at least. Tomorrow I'll try to pair the hand free / sound system in my car.
So my conclusion for now: I mutilated a well working android phone to have little more than a dumbphone. Well, enough for know. As I said, I'll give it another try, but I hope that the Sailfish guys will make lot's of efforts to deliver value for money.
---update---
In the meantime I found out that this annoying warning is still showing up (see screenshot above): "Your device has been unlocked and can't be trusted". Well is this the cooperation or partnership with Sony, if have been reading about since the Barcelona fair? LOL Anyone any idea how to remove this? Maybe not. There already is a special thread on this.
---update2---
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Hi there, today I bought an Xperia X and installed Sailfish OS on it with Homebrew and a Mac. I´m not really IT skilled but very curious person willing to try out this new OS and I have to admit, that installing it wasn´t that easy for me, but it worked at the first try as described on the Jolla/Sailfish website.
I was quite happy and a little bit proud about it after the installation, but then I found out very soon, that this aquisition might not have been worth the price I paid. The Xperia X isn't bad as a mobile phone - as long as Android 7.1 is on it. If you buy Sailfish OS for some other 50 Euros you get a smartphone which isn't smart anymore IMHO.
You can make phone calls, send sms, email etc. - well that's basically it - if you are not installing android apps. But to install andoid apps, I could have kept Nougat 7.1, too. Don't misunderstand me. I would like to support this other smartphone OS, but if you pay some 250-300 Euros for the phone and 50 Euros for the OS, you can expect more.
I'll definitely give Sailfish OS a second chance and try it out for some time getting to know this OS better, but it's impossible to make it my first phone for everyday usage, yet. Most of the apps in the jolla store aren't even worth joking about IMHO.
Android apps could be an alternative for some time, but unlike on Nougat 7.1.1. on Sailfish OS you have to accept all the permissions the andoid apps are asking for, without being able to take them partially away. This is even possible on Google's OS.
Then the Sailfish browser allows only Google, Bing, Yahoo and Yandex as search engines. Are you kidding? Why not allow DuckDuckGo or Ixquick for example instead of those usual suspects?? I really don't understand this. This simply doesn't look thrustworthy to me.
On the other hand, Jolla/sailfish say bluetooh wasn't officially supported. But I was able to pair my Bose QC35 headphones with the Sailfish X. That's good news, at least. Tomorrow I'll try to pair the hand free / sound system in my car.
So my conclusion for now: I mutilated a well working android phone to have little more than a dumbphone. Well, enough for know. As I said, I'll give it another try, but I hope that the Sailfish guys will make lot's of efforts to deliver value for money.
---update---
In the meantime I found out that this annoying warning is still showing up (see screenshot above): "Your device has been unlocked and can't be trusted". Well is this the cooperation or partnership with Sony, if have been reading about since the Barcelona fair? LOL Anyone any idea how to remove this? Maybe not. There already is a special thread on this.
---update2---
15 | No.15 Revision |
Hi there, today I bought an Xperia X and installed Sailfish OS on it with Homebrew and a Mac. I´m not really IT skilled but very curious person willing to try out this new OS and I have to admit, that installing it wasn´t that easy for me, but it worked at the first try as described on the Jolla/Sailfish website.
I was quite happy and a little bit proud about it after the installation, but then I found out very soon, that this aquisition might not have been worth the price I paid. The Xperia X isn't bad as a mobile phone - as long as Android 7.1 is on it. If you buy Sailfish OS for some other 50 Euros you get a smartphone which isn't smart anymore IMHO.
You can make phone calls, send sms, email etc. - well that's basically it - if you are not installing android apps. But to install andoid apps, I could have kept Nougat 7.1, too. Don't misunderstand me. I would like to support this other smartphone OS, but if you pay some 250-300 Euros for the phone and 50 Euros for the OS, you can expect more.
I'll definitely give Sailfish OS a second chance and try it out for some time getting to know this OS better, but it's impossible to make it my first phone for everyday usage, yet. Most of the apps in the jolla store aren't even worth joking about IMHO.
Android apps could be an alternative for some time, but unlike on Nougat 7.1.1. on Sailfish OS you have to accept all the permissions the andoid apps are asking for, without being able to take them partially away. This is even possible on Google's OS.
Then the Sailfish browser allows only Google, Bing, Yahoo and Yandex as search engines. Are you kidding? Why not allow DuckDuckGo or Ixquick for example instead of those usual suspects?? I really don't understand this. This simply doesn't look thrustworthy to me.
On the other hand, Jolla/sailfish say bluetooh wasn't officially supported. But I was able to pair my Bose QC35 headphones with the Sailfish X. That's good news, at least. Tomorrow I'll try to pair the hand free / sound system in my car.
So my conclusion for now: I mutilated a well working android phone to have little more than a dumbphone. Well, enough for know. As I said, I'll give it another try, but I hope that the Sailfish guys will make lot's of efforts to deliver value for money.
---update---
In the meantime I found out that this annoying warning is still showing up (see screenshot above): "Your device has been unlocked and can't be trusted". Well is this the cooperation or partnership with Sony, if have been reading about since the Barcelona fair? LOL Anyone any idea how to remove this? Maybe not. There already is a special thread on this.
---update2---
16 | No.16 Revision |
Hi there, today I bought an Xperia X and installed Sailfish OS on it with Homebrew and a Mac. I´m not really IT skilled but very curious person willing to try out this new OS and I have to admit, that installing it wasn´t that easy for me, but it worked at the first try as described on the Jolla/Sailfish website.
I was quite happy and a little bit proud about it after the installation, but then I found out very soon, that this aquisition might not have been worth the price I paid. The Xperia X isn't bad as a mobile phone - as long as Android 7.1 is on it. If you buy Sailfish OS for some other 50 Euros you get a smartphone which isn't smart anymore IMHO.
You can make phone calls, send sms, email etc. - well that's basically it - if you are not installing android apps. But to install andoid apps, I could have kept Nougat 7.1, too. Don't misunderstand me. I would like to support this other smartphone OS, but if you pay some 250-300 Euros for the phone and 50 Euros for the OS, you can expect more.
I'll definitely give Sailfish OS a second chance and try it out for some time getting to know this OS better, but it's impossible to make it my first phone for everyday usage, yet. Most of the apps in the jolla store aren't even worth joking about IMHO.
Android apps could be an alternative for some time, but unlike on Nougat 7.1.1. on Sailfish OS you have to accept all the permissions the andoid apps are asking for, without being able to take them partially away. This is even possible on Google's OS.
Then the Sailfish browser allows only Google, Bing, Yahoo and Yandex as search engines. Are you kidding? Why not allow DuckDuckGo or Ixquick for example instead of those usual suspects?? I really don't understand this. This simply doesn't look thrustworthy to me.
On the other hand, Jolla/sailfish say bluetooh wasn't officially supported. But I was able to pair my Bose QC35 headphones with the Sailfish X. That's good news, at least. Tomorrow I'll try to pair the hand free / sound system in my car.
So my conclusion for now: I mutilated a well working android phone to have little more than a dumbphone. Well, enough for know. As I said, I'll give it another try, but I hope that the Sailfish guys will make lot's of efforts to deliver value for money.
---update---
In the meantime I found out that this annoying warning is still showing up (see screenshot above): "Your device has been unlocked and can't be trusted". Well is this the cooperation or partnership with Sony, if have been reading about since the Barcelona fair? LOL Anyone any idea how to remove this? Maybe not. There already is a special thread on this.
---update2---
17 | No.17 Revision |
Hi there, today I bought an Xperia X and installed Sailfish OS on it with Homebrew and a Mac. I´m not really IT skilled but very curious person willing to try out this new OS and I have to admit, that installing it wasn´t that easy for me, but it worked at the first try as described on the Jolla/Sailfish website.
I was quite happy and a little bit proud about it after the installation, but then I found out very soon, that this aquisition might not have been worth the price I paid. The Xperia X isn't bad as a mobile phone - as long as Android 7.1 is on it. If you buy Sailfish OS for some other 50 Euros you get a smartphone which isn't smart anymore IMHO.
You can make phone calls, send sms, email etc. - well that's basically it - if you are not installing android apps. But to install andoid apps, I could have kept Nougat 7.1, too. Don't misunderstand me. I would like to support this other smartphone OS, but if you pay some 250-300 Euros for the phone and 50 Euros for the OS, you can expect more.
I'll definitely give Sailfish OS a second chance and try it out for some time getting to know this OS better, but it's impossible to make it my first phone for everyday usage, yet. Most of the apps in the jolla store aren't even worth joking about IMHO.
Android apps could be an alternative for some time, but unlike on Nougat 7.1.1. on Sailfish OS you have to accept all the permissions the andoid apps are asking for, without being able to take them partially away. This is even possible on Google's OS.
Then the Sailfish browser allows only Google, Bing, Yahoo and Yandex as search engines. Are you kidding? Why not allow DuckDuckGo or Ixquick for example instead of those usual suspects?? I really don't understand this. This simply doesn't look thrustworthy to me.
On the other hand, Jolla/sailfish say bluetooh wasn't officially supported. But I was able to pair my Bose QC35 headphones with the Sailfish X. That's good news, at least. Tomorrow I'll try to pair the hand free / sound system in my car.
So my conclusion for now: I mutilated a well working android phone to have little more than a dumbphone. Well, enough for know. As I said, I'll give it another try, but I hope that the Sailfish guys will make lot's of efforts to deliver value for money.
---update---
In the meantime I found out that this annoying warning is still showing up (see screenshot above): "Your device has been unlocked and can't be trusted". Well is this the cooperation or partnership with Sony, if have been reading about since the Barcelona fair? LOL Anyone any idea how to remove this? Maybe not. There already is a special thread on this.
---update2---
18 | No.18 Revision |
Hi there, today I bought an Xperia X and installed Sailfish OS on it with Homebrew and a Mac. I´m not really IT skilled but very curious person willing to try out this new OS and I have to admit, that installing it wasn´t that easy for me, but it worked at the first try as described on the Jolla/Sailfish website.
I was quite happy and a little bit proud about it after the installation, but then I found out very soon, that this aquisition might not have been worth the price I paid. The Xperia X isn't bad as a mobile phone - as long as Android 7.1 is on it. If you buy Sailfish OS for some other 50 Euros you get a smartphone which isn't smart anymore IMHO.
You can make phone calls, send sms, email etc. - well that's basically it - if you are not installing android apps. But to install andoid apps, I could have kept Nougat 7.1, too. Don't misunderstand me. I would like to support this other smartphone OS, but if you pay some 250-300 Euros for the phone and 50 Euros for the OS, you can expect more.
I'll definitely give Sailfish OS a second chance and try it out for some time getting to know this OS better, but it's impossible to make it my first phone for everyday usage, yet. Most of the apps in the jolla store aren't even worth joking about IMHO.
Android apps could be an alternative for some time, but unlike on Nougat 7.1.1. on Sailfish OS you have to accept all the permissions the andoid apps are asking for, without being able to take them partially away. This is even possible on Google's OS.
Then the Sailfish browser allows only Google, Bing, Yahoo and Yandex as search engines. Are you kidding? Why not allow DuckDuckGo or Ixquick for example instead of those usual suspects?? I really don't understand this. This simply doesn't look thrustworthy to me.
On the other hand, Jolla/sailfish say bluetooh wasn't officially supported. But I was able to pair my Bose QC35 headphones with the Sailfish X. That's good news, at least. Tomorrow I'll try to pair the hand free / sound system in my car.
So my conclusion for now: I mutilated a well working android phone to have little more than a dumbphone. Well, enough for know. As I said, I'll give it another try, but I hope that the Sailfish guys will make lot's of efforts to deliver value for money.
---update---
In the meantime I found out that this annoying warning is still showing up (see screenshot above): "Your device has been unlocked and can't be trusted". Well is this the cooperation or partnership with Sony, if have been reading about since the Barcelona fair? LOL Anyone any idea how to remove this? Maybe not. There already is a special thread on this.
---update2---
---update3---
I set up Caldav, Carddav and IMAP accounts and it's seems to work quite well. Especially Carddav is tricky once in a while, because I'm using the account from a mac, from an iPhone from Sailfish X and a Webinterface.
I tried to make use of the camera app and must say that it is pretty far from good and out of focus. Why is there no manual focus and focus lock, or does this exist and I simply can't find it. For video there seems to be no manual focussing at all. For videos a focus lock is essential IMHO.
By the way I decided to install no android apps and try out all the native apps before.
19 | No.19 Revision |
Hi there, today I bought an Xperia X and installed Sailfish OS on it with Homebrew and a Mac. I´m not really IT skilled but very curious person willing to try out this new OS and I have to admit, that installing it wasn´t that easy for me, but it worked at the first try as described on the Jolla/Sailfish website.
I was quite happy and a little bit proud about it after the installation, but then I found out very soon, that this aquisition might not have been worth the price I paid. The Xperia X isn't bad as a mobile phone - as long as Android 7.1 is on it. If you buy Sailfish OS for some other 50 Euros you get a smartphone which isn't smart anymore IMHO.
You can make phone calls, send sms, email etc. - well that's basically it - if you are not installing android apps. But to install andoid apps, I could have kept Nougat 7.1, too. Don't misunderstand me. I would like to support this other smartphone OS, but if you pay some 250-300 Euros for the phone and 50 Euros for the OS, you can expect more.
I'll definitely give Sailfish OS a second chance and try it out for some time getting to know this OS better, but it's impossible to make it my first phone for everyday usage, yet. Most of the apps in the jolla store aren't even worth joking about IMHO.
Android apps could be an alternative for some time, but unlike on Nougat 7.1.1. on Sailfish OS you have to accept all the permissions the andoid apps are asking for, without being able to take them partially away. This is even possible on Google's OS.
Then the Sailfish browser allows only Google, Bing, Yahoo and Yandex as search engines. Are you kidding? Why not allow DuckDuckGo or Ixquick for example instead of those usual suspects?? I really don't understand this. This simply doesn't look thrustworthy to me.
On the other hand, Jolla/sailfish say bluetooh wasn't officially supported. But I was able to pair my Bose QC35 headphones with the Sailfish X. That's good news, at least. Tomorrow I'll try to pair the hand free / sound system in my car.
So my conclusion for now: I mutilated a well working android phone to have little more than a dumbphone. Well, enough for know. As I said, I'll give it another try, but I hope that the Sailfish guys will make lot's of efforts to deliver value for money.
---update---
In the meantime I found out that this annoying warning is still showing up (see screenshot above): "Your device has been unlocked and can't be trusted". Well is this the cooperation or partnership with Sony, if have been reading about since the Barcelona fair? LOL Anyone any idea how to remove this? Maybe not. There already is a special thread on this.
---update2---
---update3---
I set up Caldav, Carddav and IMAP accounts and it's seems to work quite well. Especially Carddav is tricky once in a while, because I'm using the account from a mac, from an iPhone from Sailfish X and a Webinterface.
I tried to make use of the camera app and must say that it is pretty far from good and out of focus. Why is there no manual focus and focus lock, or does this exist and I simply can't find it. For video there seems to be no manual focussing at all. For videos a focus lock is essential IMHO.
By the way I decided to install no android apps and try out all the native apps before.
---update4---
Today I changed my mind and installed Android support, because I didn't want to give up Threema messenger. I would also like to install Signal Messenger APK but the permissions requested make me feel uncomfortable. Calender access, huh? GPS position? Change contacts? WTF?! IOS and recent Android OS give users the possibility to grand those permissions or not. What about Alien Dalvik? Is your only choise to install the APK whith ALL the permissions or not at all? Don't like this. In the Sailfish Settings you can only grant an APK access to the contacts or not. Maybe I'm getting this wrong. Can anyone explain?
There are two apps on Openrepos and Github i.e. Cameraplus and Whisperfish. They sound interesting but I have no clue if they are save to be installed. If so they should be in the Jolla store, no?
20 | No.20 Revision |
Hi there, today I bought an Xperia X and installed Sailfish OS on it with Homebrew and a Mac. I´m not really IT skilled but very curious person willing to try out this new OS and I have to admit, that installing it wasn´t that easy for me, but it worked at the first try as described on the Jolla/Sailfish website.
I was quite happy and a little bit proud about it after the installation, but then I found out very soon, that this aquisition might not have been worth the price I paid. The Xperia X isn't bad as a mobile phone - as long as Android 7.1 is on it. If you buy Sailfish OS for some other 50 Euros you get a smartphone which isn't smart anymore IMHO.
You can make phone calls, send sms, email etc. - well that's basically it - if you are not installing android apps. But to install andoid apps, I could have kept Nougat 7.1, too. Don't misunderstand me. I would like to support this other smartphone OS, but if you pay some 250-300 Euros for the phone and 50 Euros for the OS, you can expect more.
I'll definitely give Sailfish OS a second chance and try it out for some time getting to know this OS better, but it's impossible to make it my first phone for everyday usage, yet. Most of the apps in the jolla store aren't even worth joking about IMHO.
Android apps could be an alternative for some time, but unlike on Nougat 7.1.1. on Sailfish OS you have to accept all the permissions the andoid apps are asking for, without being able to take them partially away. This is even possible on Google's OS.
Then the Sailfish browser allows only Google, Bing, Yahoo and Yandex as search engines. Are you kidding? Why not allow DuckDuckGo or Ixquick for example instead of those usual suspects?? I really don't understand this. This simply doesn't look thrustworthy to me.
On the other hand, Jolla/sailfish say bluetooh wasn't officially supported. But I was able to pair my Bose QC35 headphones with the Sailfish X. That's good news, at least. Tomorrow I'll try to pair the hand free / sound system in my car.
So my conclusion for now: I mutilated a well working android phone to have little more than a dumbphone. Well, enough for know. As I said, I'll give it another try, but I hope that the Sailfish guys will make lot's of efforts to deliver value for money.
---update---
In the meantime I found out that this annoying warning is still showing up (see screenshot above): "Your device has been unlocked and can't be trusted". Well is this the cooperation or partnership with Sony, if have been reading about since the Barcelona fair? LOL Anyone any idea how to remove this? Maybe not. There already is a special thread on this.
---update2---
---update3---
I set up Caldav, Carddav and IMAP accounts and it's seems to work quite well. Especially Carddav is tricky once in a while, because I'm using the account from a mac, from an iPhone from Sailfish X and a Webinterface.
I tried to make use of the camera app and must say that it is pretty far from good and out of focus. Why is there no manual focus and focus lock, or does this exist and I simply can't find it. For video there seems to be no manual focussing at all. For videos a focus lock is essential IMHO.
By the way I decided to install no android apps and try out all the native apps before.
---update4---
Today I changed my mind and installed Android support, because I didn't want to give up Threema messenger. I would also like to install Signal Messenger APK but the permissions requested make me feel uncomfortable. Calender access, huh? GPS position? Change contacts? WTF?! IOS and recent Android OS give users the possibility to grand those permissions or not. What about Alien Dalvik? Is your only choise to install the APK whith ALL the permissions or not at all? Don't like this. In the Sailfish Settings you can only grant an APK access to the contacts or not. Maybe I'm getting this wrong. Can anyone explain?
There are two apps on Openrepos and Github i.e. Cameraplus and Whisperfish. They sound interesting but I have no clue if they are save to be installed. If so they should be in the Jolla store, no?
---update5---
The last weekend I decided to make Sailfish X my first phone for a month to examine if it works in a everyday private&work environment as my main phone. Well, it's not bad, but there is a really annoying issue, when I cross the border everyday to my neighbouring country. The network change doesn't take place automatically. See this threads for details: https://together.jolla.com/question/175003/issue-t-mobile-de-roaming-mobile-network-selection/ If this issue can't be solved, Sailfish X is unfortunately not for me.
21 | No.21 Revision |
Hi there, today I bought an Xperia X and installed Sailfish OS on it with Homebrew and a Mac. I´m not really IT skilled but very curious person willing to try out this new OS and I have to admit, that installing it wasn´t that easy for me, but it worked at the first try as described on the Jolla/Sailfish website.
I was quite happy and a little bit proud about it after the installation, but then I found out very soon, that this aquisition might not have been worth the price I paid. The Xperia X isn't bad as a mobile phone - as long as Android 7.1 is on it. If you buy Sailfish OS for some other 50 Euros you get a smartphone which isn't smart anymore IMHO.
You can make phone calls, send sms, email etc. - well that's basically it - if you are not installing android apps. But to install andoid apps, I could have kept Nougat 7.1, too. Don't misunderstand me. I would like to support this other smartphone OS, but if you pay some 250-300 Euros for the phone and 50 Euros for the OS, you can expect more.
I'll definitely give Sailfish OS a second chance and try it out for some time getting to know this OS better, but it's impossible to make it my first phone for everyday usage, yet. Most of the apps in the jolla store aren't even worth joking about IMHO.
Android apps could be an alternative for some time, but unlike on Nougat 7.1.1. on Sailfish OS you have to accept all the permissions the andoid apps are asking for, without being able to take them partially away. This is even possible on Google's OS.
Then the Sailfish browser allows only Google, Bing, Yahoo and Yandex as search engines. Are you kidding? Why not allow DuckDuckGo or Ixquick for example instead of those usual suspects?? I really don't understand this. This simply doesn't look thrustworthy to me.
On the other hand, Jolla/sailfish say bluetooh wasn't officially supported. But I was able to pair my Bose QC35 headphones with the Sailfish X. That's good news, at least. Tomorrow I'll try to pair the hand free / sound system in my car.
So my conclusion for now: I mutilated a well working android phone to have little more than a dumbphone. Well, enough for know. As I said, I'll give it another try, but I hope that the Sailfish guys will make lot's of efforts to deliver value for money.
---update---
In the meantime I found out that this annoying warning is still showing up (see screenshot above): "Your device has been unlocked and can't be trusted". Well is this the cooperation or partnership with Sony, if have been reading about since the Barcelona fair? LOL Anyone any idea how to remove this? Maybe not. There already is a special thread on this.
---update2---
---update3---
I set up Caldav, Carddav and IMAP accounts and it's seems to work quite well. Especially Carddav is tricky once in a while, because I'm using the account from a mac, from an iPhone from Sailfish X and a Webinterface.
I tried to make use of the camera app and must say that it is pretty far from good and out of focus. Why is there no manual focus and focus lock, or does this exist and I simply can't find it. For video there seems to be no manual focussing at all. For videos a focus lock is essential IMHO.
By the way I decided to install no android apps and try out all the native apps before.
---update4---
Today I changed my mind and installed Android support, because I didn't want to give up Threema messenger. I would also like to install Signal Messenger APK but the permissions requested make me feel uncomfortable. Calender access, huh? GPS position? Change contacts? WTF?! IOS and recent Android OS give users the possibility to grand those permissions or not. What about Alien Dalvik? Is your only choise to install the APK whith ALL the permissions or not at all? Don't like this. In the Sailfish Settings you can only grant an APK access to the contacts or not. Maybe I'm getting this wrong. Can anyone explain?
There are two apps on Openrepos and Github i.e. Cameraplus and Whisperfish. They sound interesting but I have no clue if they are save to be installed. If so they should be in the Jolla store, no?
---update5---
The last weekend I decided to make Sailfish X my first phone for a month to examine if it works in a an everyday private&work environment as my main phone. Well, it's not bad, but there is a really annoying issue, when I cross the border everyday to my neighbouring country. country and back. The network change doesn't take place automatically. See this threads thread for details: https://together.jolla.com/question/175003/issue-t-mobile-de-roaming-mobile-network-selection/ If this issue can't be solved, Sailfish X is unfortunately not for me.