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1 | initial version | posted 2015-01-05 12:23:34 +0200 |
I'm really so disappointed and frustrated. I came to Jolla because I searched for freedom. i was blended by their marketing and the positive comments in press and blogs. But directly after I received my phone, and I gave away my iPhone I discovered that Jolla isn't FOSS - yes it have open and free parts, but in the complete it isn't. Yes SFOS and Jolla have some nice ideas, and I would take the lack of comfort you have with a Jolla right now, but only if i had the freedom I was searching for. I was on the way to implement TextSecure (aldislamp) for SFOS, and for that I bought a second Jolla Phone, one for daily use, the other for development. Also I perked a Tablet, because I thought at the end it will become all FOSS. But I think I was tricking my self. I was thinking about Jolla and not free already from the beginning, looks like there are not so many alternatives, Apple and Google are bad, BB not better. But a Firefox phone looks to have at the first glance to have (at least more) freedom, Android as AOSP or Cyanogenmod is defenitly more free. The only problem is support here the bad companies with buying their hardware. Now everything I have is Jolla hardware, which is very expensive if you took the hardware aside from the Rest. And I don't know where to go. At the moment I try to figure out how to get nemo or Plasma Active running on my Jolla devices, because I don't want throw another time money away I did with Apple. But I regret I bought Jolla. If I had known everything I know today I had probably bought an old N900 or had kept my SGS3 I never used to put CM11 on it. Or mybe even I had gone a step further and had drop a phone completely. Now it's done. But yesterday happened here something which also made me angry and took me to decide to no more support SFOS with my native TextSecure implementation. For me it is incredible (https://together.jolla.com/question/74432/bug-notification-screen-to-device-lock-prompt-to-home-screen/) how people here put something like the right answer for you, which is for yourself obvious not the right answer. The people tell you, it's a feature not a bug - because it's in the release notes. If you can use something not in the right way, for me it's a bug. And I can not understand how the people think they can decide for you what is okay and what not. I felt this bad not even with Apple like I felt yesterday. Probably I will get here also the answer, that is supposed to be in this way. Okay, for me not: good bye!
PS: If somebody makes me a good offer, I have to Jolla Phones and a coming Tablet to sell. I will never ever buy an Jolla except it will be complete FOSS - and I'm in the meanwhile sure it will never happen. If I end up with nemo I will continue on native TextSecure, but for nemo with the UI for nemo.
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I'm really so disappointed and frustrated. I came to Jolla because I searched for freedom. i was blended by their marketing and the positive comments in press and blogs. But directly after I received my phone, and I gave away my iPhone I discovered that Jolla isn't FOSS - yes it have open and free parts, but in the complete it isn't. Yes SFOS and Jolla have some nice ideas, and I would take the lack of comfort you have with a Jolla right now, but only if i had the freedom I was searching for. I was on the way to implement TextSecure (aldislamp) for SFOS, and for that I bought a second Jolla Phone, one for daily use, the other for development. Also I perked a Tablet, because I thought at the end it will become all FOSS. But I think I was tricking my self. I was thinking about Jolla and not free already from the beginning, looks like there are not so many alternatives, Apple and Google are bad, BB not better. But a Firefox phone looks to have at the first glance to have (at least more) freedom, Android as AOSP or Cyanogenmod is defenitly more free. The only problem is support here the bad companies with buying their hardware. Now everything I have is Jolla hardware, which is very expensive if you took the hardware aside from the Rest. And I don't know where to go. At the moment I try to figure out how to get nemo or Plasma Active running on my Jolla devices, because I don't want throw another time money away I did with Apple. But I regret I bought Jolla. If I had known everything I know today I had probably bought an old N900 or had kept my SGS3 I never used to put CM11 on it. Or mybe even I had gone a step further and had drop a phone completely. Now it's done. But yesterday happened here something which also made me angry and took me to decide to no more support SFOS with my native TextSecure implementation. For me it is incredible (https://together.jolla.com/question/74432/bug-notification-screen-to-device-lock-prompt-to-home-screen/) how people here put something like the right answer for you, which is for yourself obvious not the right answer. The people tell you, it's a feature not a bug - because it's in the release notes. If you can use something not in the right way, for me it's a bug. And I can not understand how the people think they can decide for you what is okay and what not. I felt this bad not even with Apple like I felt yesterday. Probably I will get here also the answer, that is supposed to be in this way. Okay, for me not: good bye!
PS: If somebody makes me a good offer, I have to Jolla Phones and a coming Tablet to sell. I will never ever buy an Jolla except it will be complete FOSS - and I'm in the meanwhile sure it will never happen. If I end up with nemo I will continue on native TextSecure, but for nemo with the UI for nemo.
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I'm really so disappointed and frustrated. I came to Jolla because I searched for freedom. i was blended by their marketing and the positive comments in press and blogs. But directly after I received my phone, and I gave away my iPhone I discovered that Jolla isn't FOSS - yes it have open and free parts, but in the complete it isn't. Yes SFOS and Jolla have some nice ideas, and I would take the lack of comfort you have with a Jolla right now, but only if i had the freedom I was searching for. I was on the way to implement TextSecure (aldislamp) for SFOS, and for that I bought a second Jolla Phone, one for daily use, the other for development. Also I perked a Tablet, because I thought at the end it will become all FOSS. But I think I was tricking my self. I was thinking about Jolla and not free already from the beginning, looks like there are not so many alternatives, Apple and Google are bad, BB not better. But a Firefox phone looks to have at the first glance to have (at least more) freedom, Android as AOSP or Cyanogenmod is defenitly more free. The only problem is support here the bad companies with buying their hardware. Now everything I have is Jolla hardware, which is very expensive if you took the hardware aside from the Rest. And I don't know where to go. At the moment I try to figure out how to get nemo or Plasma Active running on my Jolla devices, because I don't want throw another time money away I did with Apple. But I regret I bought Jolla. If I had known everything I know today I had probably bought an old N900 or had kept my SGS3 I never used to put CM11 on it. Or mybe even I had gone a step further and had drop a phone completely. Now it's done. But yesterday happened here something which also made me angry and took me to decide to no more support SFOS with my native TextSecure implementation. For me it is incredible (https://together.jolla.com/question/74432/bug-notification-screen-to-device-lock-prompt-to-home-screen/) how people here put something like the right answer for you, which is for yourself obvious not the right answer. The people tell you, it's a feature not a bug - because it's in the release notes. If you can use something not in the right way, for me it's a bug. And I can not understand how the people think they can decide for you what is okay and what not. I felt this bad not even with Apple like I felt yesterday. Probably I will get here also the answer, that is supposed to be in this way. Okay, for me not: good bye!
PS: If somebody makes me a good offer, I have to Jolla Phones and a coming Tablet to sell. I will never ever buy an Jolla except it will be complete FOSS - and I'm in the meanwhile sure it will never happen. If I end up with nemo I will continue on native TextSecure, but for nemo with the UI for nemo.
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I'm really so disappointed and frustrated. I came to Jolla because I searched for freedom. i was blended by their marketing and the positive comments in press and blogs. But directly after I received my phone, and I gave away my iPhone I discovered that Jolla isn't FOSS - yes it have open and free parts, but in the complete it isn't. Yes SFOS and Jolla have some nice ideas, and I would take the lack of comfort you have with a Jolla right now, but only if i had the freedom I was searching for. I was on the way to implement TextSecure (aldislamp) for SFOS, and for that I bought a second Jolla Phone, one for daily use, the other for development. Also I perked a Tablet, because I thought at the end it will become all FOSS. But I think I was tricking my self. I was thinking about Jolla and not free already from the beginning, looks like there are not so many alternatives, Apple and Google are bad, BB not better. But a Firefox phone looks to have at the first glance to have (at least more) freedom, Android as AOSP or Cyanogenmod is defenitly more free. The only problem is support here the bad companies with buying their hardware. Now everything I have is Jolla hardware, which is very expensive if you took the hardware aside from the Rest. And I don't know where to go. At the moment I try to figure out how to get nemo or Plasma Active running on my Jolla devices, because I don't want throw another time money away I did with Apple. But I regret I bought Jolla. If I had known everything I know today I had probably bought an old N900 or had kept my SGS3 I never used to put CM11 on it. Or mybe even I had gone a step further and had drop a phone completely. Now it's done. But yesterday happened here something which also made me angry and took me to decide to no more support SFOS with my native TextSecure implementation. For me it is incredible (https://together.jolla.com/question/74432/bug-notification-screen-to-device-lock-prompt-to-home-screen/) how people here put something like the right answer for you, which is for yourself obvious not the right answer. The people tell you, it's a feature not a bug - because it's in the release notes. If you can use something not in the right way, for me it's a bug. And I can not understand how the people think they can decide for you what is okay and what not. I felt this bad not even with Apple like I felt yesterday. Probably I will get here also the answer, that is supposed to be in this way. Okay, for me not: good bye!
PS: If somebody makes me a good offer, I have to Jolla Phones and a coming Tablet to sell. I will never ever buy an Jolla except it will be complete FOSS - and I'm in the meanwhile sure it will never happen. If I end up with nemo I will continue on native TextSecure, but for nemo with the UI for nemo.