asked 2015-08-25 14:01:10 +0300
I want to download any new emails but leave the emails on the server so I can pick them up from my computer later. My emails are mainly business and I need to have them stored correctly.
Is there a way to do that? If not, there should be.
answered 2015-08-25 14:14:03 +0300
hi dave and welcome to TJC.
what you wish for is implemented and working. when emails are downloaded (and deleted on the server) that usually means you are using the POP3 protocol. i would not recommend doing that since there is a way better protocol available called IMAP4. if your email provider does not support IMAP4 i strongly recoomend switching the provider...
so, when setting up your email in the client just select IMAP4 at "server type" and there you go.
if that answers your question please comment, so the thread can be closed (you can only do that after collecting tome "karma points")
answered 2015-08-25 21:53:47 +0300
Hi,
I also prefer the POP3-solution, for me the privacy and security-issues are the crucial factors ...
But to answer the question: I use POP3 on my Jolla without any further settings, and it leaves the mails on the server, so I can fetch them later on with my computer, such as you asked it.
The only thing I already complained about is, that when you delete a mail on your Jolla once you got it via POP3, it will be deleted on the server as well (see https://together.jolla.com/question/61569/feature-request-better-pop3-support-options/). This is not the way POP3 should work, I think.
@Jolkas this is a bit off-topic, but could you please elaborate on the privacy and security issues? im very interested in these topics and ive never heard of any problems with IMAP in this respect... (or if you have a good link explaining just post that please)
misc11 ( 2015-08-27 12:21:06 +0300 )editanswered 2015-08-25 17:21:22 +0300
I respectfully disagree with the IMAP-solves-it-all trend.
Indeed, IMAP is a protocol that will allow OP to remotely see and open his mail leaving everything on the server, but the underlying assumption is during all the session one must stay connected to the server, and, by default everything is unreachable once disconnected, unless mails are cached on the user side (which IMAP really does not expect by default -in such cases cache updating can be very long for mailboxes with lot of mails).
In contrast, POP is a way to duplicate the complete mail archive from the server onto the user computer, allowing later reading even without internet access at all. For me at least, with sporadic internet accesses, POP is vital : I cannot find myself without an archive of my emails.
On macintosh for instance, I have been using a software named Powermail for 10 years, that handles both IMAP (with a cache mechanism) and POP (with a precisely adjustable mechanism to optionally replicate local deletions to the server). Comparing both methods is striking: in my experience the fine-tunable POP handling is a must.
I believe the OP question may be better answered with a good POP client -much better, in cases like mine, than IMAP clients.
To me IMAP is acceptable only if one abandons the idea of keeping a mail archive on his machine... While that may be acceptable on a phone short of a better solution, if one considers the foreseeable future for Sailfish OS and its mail app, IMAP-only solutions should not be accepted on the Jolla tablet for instance.
Yes, I recognize the android way of "storing the last 20" results in a fast IMAP. But as I said, storing the last 20 is absolutely not a solution for me...
And I believe, but it may be just me, that the evolution towards tablets will bring "back", if I dare say, the requirement to really handle your email locally, not "just the last 20".
Also, when one considers the current phones can handle various full movie files in memory, limiting oneself to "the last 20 emails" looks a catastrophic heritage from 10 years ago ;-)
Herve5 ( 2015-08-25 18:52:23 +0300 )editPOP makes the assumption that you want to delete the mails from the server when you have downloaded them. Sure, you can request it not to, but that is the default behaviour (and it is really stupid, considering you might want to use more than one device tol read your mail)
IMAP is the correct solution, it is modern and flexible way to synchronize mail folders. It is the problem of the client whether it stores the mails locally, that has nothing to do with IMAP.
juiceme ( 2015-08-25 19:21:03 +0300 )editIt's impressive how our opinions can be opposite :-)
I appreciate you can define "the correct solution" for me.
But I stick to mine, if you don't mind, and I remain of the opinion that any mail client only capable to remember the last 20 mails is a fossil.
And that IMAP was invented, way after POP, at a time last century when remote clients were expected to be mindless minimal thingies around a single omnipotent centralized computer. I sincerely wish it to become an ephemeral invention ;-)
Herve5 ( 2015-08-25 20:23:26 +0300 )editanswered 2015-08-25 22:35:12 +0300
Many thanks. I'll check this out with my 3 providers.
Asked: 2015-08-25 14:01:10 +0300
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Is you mail server use IMAP? You should use this protocol for solving your problem.
Ósanwe ( 2015-08-25 14:13:06 +0300 )editI agree with you. POP3 on Jolla is not working for me as well. I would like to see a good POP3 mailer for my Jolla. I have no problem with people who prefer IMAP but they should not try to tell me what I have to use.
Bernd ( 2015-08-26 12:50:31 +0300 )edit