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where is the jolla tablet? [not relevant]

asked 2015-09-11 23:42:25 +0200

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updated 2015-11-16 15:05:31 +0200

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So we dont get it until december?

May-june-july-august-september-october-november-december...

The question must be asked since its no longer early september. Any issues with the production line or what? Webshop cant handle tablet?

Can you confirm if the first wave gets it before christmas?

I feel bad for the tablet. Hope to see it in customers hands ASAP.

edit 06-11-2015 one month after the big apolopy of the ceo and the latest blogpost... According to the schedule communicated at that time we should be in the middle of the second wave, yet nothing seems to be happening.

@sailors please communicate with us about the process!

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Come on, relax a little ;)

gehowa ( 2015-09-11 23:45:04 +0200 )edit
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The hardware is ready. The software isn't I guess.

leszek ( 2015-09-12 00:32:44 +0200 )edit
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Er, no, the opposite is true. The software is ready, and has been for quite some time now. There are demo tablets running around all over the place, and several reviews have already been written using those tablets.

However, a number of problems have continued to hamper the hardware side, from the display issues early this year to the more recent factory scheduling and logistics issues. Once they can start successfully producing the tablets in volume, shipping will commence.

Copernicus ( 2015-09-12 01:09:52 +0200 )edit
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I know about the hardware issues though I think they are pretty much now ouf of the way. I still have doubts about the software.

Will split screen make it into 2.0, because it was announced to release around this time? Will the little quirks with the new eventsview and android support we experience on the phone also happen on the tablet? What about software? We are still not allowed to upload x86 versions of our apps to harbour because the SDK isn't ready yet. So the store will be almost completely empty on arrival of the tablet? I also don't see tablet versions on openrepos. So basically if I would review the tablet based on the native apps which are pretty much non existent I cannot be amazed and as reviewer I can only criticize that. OK there is Android Support but if it isn't top notch and you have bugs like notifications not producing sounds or not shown at all nobody would be amazed by that aswell.

In the end the question remains will the tablet and especially the OS amaze the reviewers and users? Or will it be another 'meh' review? Or will it be a 'has potential but needs improvement' review? Last time I remembered this was exactly that what most Jolla Phone reviewers said. There comes the time that one day Jolla and SailfishOS needs more than such reviews. So that new users and developers will be interested in SailfishOS and start using it. Remember this Tablet is a flagship device for the SailfishOS Platform so it needs that kind of quality that attracts people to it.

leszek ( 2015-09-12 01:40:00 +0200 )edit
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Well, then, I suppose you _don't_ want them to release the tablet just yet, if you want to wait until the software is polished and "amazing". :)

A few items:

  • Work on split screen was scheduled to _start_ in August, as you can see in Q3 of the development roadmap. I doubt it will be complete very soon, given the amount of work Jolla has to pursue in other areas right now...
  • Yes, one would expect most quirks on the phone to appear on the tablet, as both are in fact running Sailfish 2.0.
  • It makes little sense to push out the tablet SDK if they still can't produce tablets. I would imagine that the SDK will appear at about the same time shipping starts. (And, that the team working on the SDK is taking advantage of the additional time to continue to tweak the SDK itself.)
  • Sure, the store will be almost empty on arrival of the tablet. Not such a huge deal, as until at least November the only folks who will have tablets are those who participated in the Indiegogo campaign, and that just isn't an enormous number of folks. I would imagine that we can get by with the billions of Android apps available until native apps appear...
  • "Will the OS amaze the reviewers and users?" From the reviews I've seen, the reviewers barely even notice that the OS is not Android. I'd love to see an in-depth review from someone who actually understands what he's talking about, but then, anybody who knows anything about the mobile industry as a whole has already experienced Sailfish _years_ ago and made up their mind. :)

tl;dr: Sailfish is fine as it is. And it will improve over time! There should be nothing software-related to delay the tablet at this point.

Copernicus ( 2015-09-12 02:07:58 +0200 )edit

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answered 2015-11-24 01:55:31 +0200

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December will arrive in a few days, and no tablets in the horizon, only black clouds..... I think all of us lost our money, as well as our faith in the company......maybe some investors/shareholders have new boats paid with our money.....

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answered 2015-09-20 11:56:05 +0200

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updated 2015-11-22 18:16:13 +0200

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My speculation: They don't have all the money to pay for the final batch, and they are waiting for enough preorders to come to be able to. (Note that I don't have any evidence to prove this apart from the delays and the preorder campaign.) EDIT 22 September 2015: Possible similar situation: They have a number of tablets sold that are short from a step where they can get a significant discount, and they are collecting preorders to order a larger batch and get them for less. This would be very good engineering (although poor PR, I must say). Once again pure speculation and no sources apart from the evidence we all know.

EDIT [22 Nov 2015]: to everyone who downvoted this

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So why do you even share speculations totally taken out of the air like this? Don't you think people are pissed enough like it is?

eson ( 2015-09-20 12:08:00 +0200 )edit
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From the indiegogo page "Original campaign was 480% funded on December 9, 2014". So it should be OK to pay for the batch to be produced.

It also says "We aim to start shipments by end of October 2015." and "Estimated delivery: November 2015" so I guess by Christmas or Spring next year :D.

But I do agree they could let us know if is a hardware supply issue or if the tablet itself had some design howlers that had to be rethought.

theunemployablekoder ( 2015-09-20 12:34:37 +0200 )edit
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@eson: Why should I not? Anyway it is to check if somebody else thinks the same. @theunemployablekoder: It was funded but nobody can ensure you that the funds are still there.

Giacomo Di Giacomo ( 2015-09-20 14:01:58 +0200 )edit
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I think out of all possible reasons, this is the less likely one. Jolla closed a big financial round last december, recall?

tortoisedoc ( 2015-09-21 06:39:48 +0200 )edit
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@tortoisedoc: That was ten months ago. I remember they said that development costs them 40 million Euros per year (and I don't know how they can spend all that money since I work in a 40-people hardware design company that turns over 3 million Euros per year, but this is another issue). That's a lot of money.

Giacomo Di Giacomo ( 2015-09-21 10:49:17 +0200 )edit
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answered 2015-09-21 18:42:09 +0200

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http://www.gsmarena.com/jolla_tablet-6816.php

they say, it must be released in september.

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Where do you see that? The only thing I can see is: "Exp. release 2015, Septeber"

What the hell is Septeber? They spell worse than me ;)

Dave999 ( 2015-09-21 19:20:08 +0200 )edit
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September + October! It seems pretty clear to me :)

g7 ( 2015-09-21 19:55:17 +0200 )edit

w00t w00t! Am I wrong or did they increase the battery capacity? :)

tortoisedoc ( 2015-09-21 20:20:47 +0200 )edit
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@DimaAsket I wish people could read. The page says "expected release" in Sept., which means "we don't know really, but we think September is likely". That's very different from "They say it must be released in september". Also, the page clearly states "We can not guarantee that the information on this page is 100% correct."

ossi1967 ( 2015-09-22 10:36:37 +0200 )edit

@DimaAsket: A third-party site that probably got their information from jolla:

We aim to start sending invites during Sep. 2015.
tonireha ( 2015-09-22 12:48:41 +0200 )edit
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answered 2015-11-14 19:50:15 +0200

pawel gravatar image

Check the blog of jolla. there is an update since two three days. again delay

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answered 2015-11-14 19:51:37 +0200

pawel gravatar image

check blog.jolla.com again a delay ;-). 2nd wave end of nov 3rd unknown

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answered 2016-02-01 12:13:11 +0200

JSEHV gravatar image

Official Jolla news and statements in latest blog post: https://blog.jolla.com/jolla-tablet-closure/

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answered 2015-09-12 11:24:05 +0200

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I know where it is.

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in china i suppose...

XiliX ( 2015-09-14 16:58:14 +0200 )edit
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Here it is: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=umUOfIBX9HA

Aigo X86

Dave999 ( 2015-09-21 20:22:00 +0200 )edit

@ Dave999 wtf chinese copied jolla tablet before it was officially released...

The PCB is the same too: jolla: https://fccid.io/document.php?id=2709348 Aigo: https://mikecanex.wordpress.com/2015/01/29/aigo-x86-disassembled/

maybe the Chinese manufacturer delayed their product and jolla cant get the tablets from them...

raron ( 2015-09-22 02:16:27 +0200 )edit

So why not buy a Aigo X86, create an Sailfish OS image with HADK and put it on it? ;) Or wait for jolla to do it :P

jobe-m ( 2015-09-22 11:47:36 +0200 )edit

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