Jolla device as an drive viewable on Windows
Neverless connecting the Jolla Phone via USB to windows creates often troubles. One big effort for excachning data independent from cloud services would be, to improve the Interface for the USB connection, which shows the Jolla devices as an drive volume. This function would really be an added value, as still not everybody is using Cloud services ( beacuse they are not safe as Sailfish OS is).
The ease (or lack thereof) of transferring files and data isn't just a problem for Windows, and Jolla needs to greatly improve on this to make the phone more usable for ordinary non-techie people, eg, see also:
- https://together.jolla.com/question/282/usb-file-transfer-support-for-mac-os-x/
dave ( 2015-09-24 18:44:45 +0200 )editVarious techniques exist for PC/Jolla data exchange. One of them, quite simple: Filezilla ftp client (or anything similar). Works well over USB or WLAN.
I wouldn't recommend full direct access to phone contents from computer like a Windows, Linux or iOs volume. sFTP uses phone owner's credentials. Much less dangerous, specially if you authenticate as "nemo", not "root" (except for back-up from phone to PC).
objectifnul ( 2015-09-24 19:12:45 +0200 )editI take this as Jolla showing up in Explorer as a device is not enough, am I right? If I am not mistaken, MTP is supported in Vista and newer. If you want to get data transfer beyond that, say hello to SCP...
Personally, I don't understand why Jolla shows up as a MTP (?) device instead of removable mass media, but I can easily transfer pics and documents using just USB cable - satisfies me...
Direc ( 2015-09-24 22:08:39 +0200 )edit@Direc :
Because Sailfish doesn't use FAT32/NTFS/exFAT as a partition format but BTRFS, which Windows and Mac OS X are pretty much incapable of reading anyway. Removable mass media would be completely useless for everybody except Linux users.
Also, jolla phones don't use a separate partition for user data. Exposing the whole phone root partition with full access to the desktop OS (specially a virus-laden one like Windows) is not a very secure idea. Something bad could really easily happen.
Last-but-not least: most filesystem (with the exception of special one designed for computing clusters) can't be mounted by several OS at the same time and risk corruption. So to make it available as a USB mass device, a smartphone needs to hibernate all applications, unmount the data partition, expose-it over USB. Then after use: remount-it, and restart all applications.
Instead, on of the solution used by Jolla phones is MTP: a protocol that shares only files and directories (and not the full partition) over USB. (Think of it as a network share, but over USB cable instead over network). Sailfish OS remains in charge of the file access and on-drive partition. Much more secure and less prone to corruption. That also alows simultaneous access to data by the smartphone and the desktop, both at the same time.
MTP is the poor man's (read:Windows user's) substitute for SCP/SFTP/RSYNC.
Of course using something like fuse's sshfs or KDE's sftp kio-slave is even better. But that requires having a unix-ish OS (Linux, Mac OS X, etc.) on the desktop.
DrYak ( 2015-09-24 23:38:54 +0200 )edit@dave: if you actually tracked the thread you refer too you would have noticed this : https://together.jolla.com/question/282/usb-file-transfer-support-for-mac-os-x/?answer=105226#post-id-105226
@Snakedog: what is your problem?
Philippe De Swert ( 2015-09-25 12:35:43 +0200 )edit