Will there ever be a Jolla Phone 2?

Can you link us to the 'hint' from Jolla about new hardware or are you simply referring to the Jolla look-a-like phone by Intex..?

Not right now as I am on the move with limited internet access. But I am referring to statements in the official channels. ...I just can't search for it right now.

I hope you understand that hardware without open-source-friendly drivers will limit the software too.

for those who think that jolla should not produce any new device, ask yourself, did you drop your own job after first try, did you stop produce apps after your first one was not bestseller ... ... ... ...

hmm typicaly, you should learn from the bad things what happened and try it again and better..

they should produce own hardware, with much more PROMO, without repeating nokia's misstakes, mostly geeks and only guys arround them knows jolla and that is not enought for growing

if they will be only software supplier for big brands, the big brands will force them to make changes even agains whole idea of the SF or votes on TJC , whatever ... less indendepended developmnent.

we already have seen the misstake with drop instead of enhance UI1. under the cover of sloganes like "for new users", "tables/phone same design is best..."

force the massive change for everyone without asking like the big companies does.... YOU WILL USE IT AS WE NEED!

they better should create UI2 as default for "new user" and UI1 as option for "advanced/old users", but not, they repeating history misstakes what they could notice in nokia times

as far i have feedbacks from customers, they mostly only accepting the change of buttons... they all including me remeber that it wasnt clear for the first time that UI1 link style button is clickable, not just underlined :) but it is all about first 20minutes with phone then you dont thinking about it. now, from my point of view ui1 button fits the nice clean design more than classic buttons, thats why they been made as hyperlinks and not boxes i guess :D but again, all should be up to user, how to deal with dramatic UI changes!

now customers asking us how to "uninstall" sf2 update and they needs back gestures as they love...

trying to be fashion and attractive OS for android/apple native users is one of the misstakes, theese users will not be satisfied ever as you can read bellow in answers ... they will only push sailfish to be at same levels and design as adroid or ios allready is. many customers doesnt care about own privacy or has no clue what google does, so they just comparing design and count of apps on store... then they simply shouthing to the world that jolla is useless product...

so the real customers for sailfish aren't theese guys, but Jolla is unable to reach their real customers becouse there were not much promo accross countries with good explanation what sailfish realy is (classic nokia fault about to inform customers what their phones could do), no local smaller jolla resellers for spreading brand name ...

the jolla UI1 has been loved by people who wasnt satisfied by allready existing mobile OS, who preffer to simple use phone mostly for work - calls/emails .... ,not for toying, but also for extreme geeks, then jolla / sailfish was trully UnLike choice and right after you forgotten old and bad habbits from another OS you were happy that you got jolla

fingers crossed for new jolla devices

I agree with your comment partially. I totally agree with you in questions about the UI and what SFOS is. Personally, I'm a little disappointed by UI2. Exactly! Where the Unlike (things like line button) loses? I defined the UI2 "Progress that nobody wanted". Animations - Why? Standard buttons - No! But, this question is about new Jolla HW. I can not agree that jola could currently produce competitive hardware. IMHO Simply there is no space for new brand on market. Or, I can not imagine how much funding would be needed for this.

Let's hope so!

I understood that line as "the Intex deal is safe, so their already announced phone will ship".

Jolla is currently at risk. Launching a new device is a risk and a medium term initiative, consuming a lot of corporate resources. Salvage requires new sources of short term revenue. This is to be found in software (an existing asset), not in (own) hardware (non existing asset). So, no Jolla 2 is to be expected from Jolla. However more devices/platforms are absolutely required urgently for SFOS survival. The only way is to get them through licensing, partnerships, various kinds of business agreements: new profit centres are to be established. No new cost centres.

I think the only way to see a "Jolla 2" is from Intex or an official porting on the Fairphone 2 (That is at a good point with the community port of SailfishOS).

I've got exactly the same feelings. I've bought Nexus 6P ...

I have just bought a Cubot X12 for my wife, to serve as a backup phone. It's an ultra-cheap, sub-$100 Android phone, running Lollipop 5.1, that received shit reviews for being too cheap. The damn thing, performance wise, runs circles around my Jolla. Were it not for the shitty Android experience, not suitable for me who make constant use of multitasking, I would be picking up this extremely powerful device for little more than the current price of a Jolla.

Oh, and by the way. Some weeks ago, deeming my Jolla Tablet almost for sure lost forever, I purchased this tablet. It's nice, it's fast, but it's damn boring to use. Looks like I did a good thing though, since the day after I purchased it there was the announcement that Jolla had found new funding. I guess they were just waiting for me to waste the money before going on.

If You use an SONY Z3 - you can easily flash Cyanogen ROM 12.1 on it. XDA Developers contain a bunch of information about doing this.

I have done it lots of times and with Cyanogen installed it is an absolutely phantastic, fast, reliable and nice phone Also my daily driver SONY Tablet Z2 runs Cyanogenmod as operating system. Same here!

Cyanogen gives You a clean, fast, consistent OS without all the crap of the Google services. Google apps can installed selectively. No need for Bloatware

Just my thoughts

The Intex phone is a way forward but there is still room for a phone with hardware that is better adapted to open-source. That phone could be sold by Jolla or some other company.

Nokia C1? Well it lokks like Windows or Android to me...