I donated my Jolla Tablet refund, what about you?

+1 Totally agree

While I'd like for Silica to be open source too, you have to admit that a lot of the code base is open source. Subscription fee certainly would help them. Buying jollas phones probably won't net them lots of monies though.

@chappi My point is that Jolla can be bought any time by an investor I wouldn't want to support, or at least to the extend I am perfectly happy to support the good fellas of Jolla today. The current investors have invested roughly $60 million if I have followed the blogs correctly and are nervous enough to nearly have destroyed Jolla. What happens if somebody showed up and offered them $100M, $150M or even $500M which is still pocket money for some potential candidates. Would they resist selling, even if the buyer wouldn't share their values?

If all tablet contributors would donate their share, that would be $2.5M. How does that compare to what is at stake? How would that secure our interests? That's less than 5% of what the investors have put into the game. Will they say: 'I would love to sell and make my share - but I won't because I don't want to disappoint those many donors'? I don't think so.

If Jolla gets sold, I would end up with a great phone with an even greater OS that is dead, dead, dead - because it is not maintained anymore. Just like my wonderful Nokia N9. I don't want to experience that again. The only real way to prevent that is by having the code base released as FOSS.

If we would do something like a crowd funding campaign to buy a minority share for the sole purpose to veto any attempt to sell Jolla - that would be something I would throw my money into as well. But I guess that is much more unlikely than Jolla setting a price for FOSS'ing their entire code base and crowd funding that.

I agree with @hubat too. Actually I would rather give another contribution to make a tablet real than having my money back... But Jolla decided to be a software only company - so there is no chance to have a Jolla tablet anymore.

As much as I understand their focus on software at the moment and their trying to find hardware partners, I really would like to see a sailfish tablet. So for now I just have to wait (and my money as well).

But there is another reason why I dont like to donate my contribution - at least at the moment: Jolla did have a REALLY bad communication strategy. And having so I lost some trust in Jolla and their future direction. As soon as I see what Jolla wants to be (may be they know but they dont communicate!) I will see how I can support them....

I think that your wording is driving the pendulum to the other extreme, to a degree that something that is technically sort of right really appears to be wrong.

The nature of a donation is really to support another party in what they are doing only for the purpose the see them succeed. So one may donate to UNICEF or Sea Shepherds or the needy person begging at the next corner. You don't expect anything back personally.

While there are crowd funding campaigns whose nature is exactly build after that model ('Help ABC to pay for her much needed eye-operation'...), it is quite common that a campaign is meant to fund establishing the infrastructure to produce something desirable and as a compensation for that help you get an instance of that desirable thing. The established word for such a payment is 'contribution'. Even though you might argue that this change in wording doesn't change a thing about the legal status not being much different from a donation technically (which I am actually not so sure is true), it really attributes the fact that neither the contributor, nor the campaigner, nor the platform maintainer such a campaign things of the payments as donations.

So really, using that word here to that extend as you do may provoke more anger than enlightenment by many, I could imagine.

@hubat: I understand what you mean, but I have a background as a lawyer, not a marketing droid. At the university, I didn't learn how to phrase things beautifully so people will swallow them easily. My studies were about who owns what and how he/ she can get it (back).

The example you brought up about the eye operation is more fitting than you might have thought. Imagine such a campaign succeeds in gathering the money, but the patient unexpectedly dies during the surgery. Would you expect people to take their money back from the heirs in such a case because the patient wasn't successfully treated?

There is a reason why IGG supporters (does anyone remember the meaning of this word?) are handled differently than those who actually bought the tablet from the shop.

@ossi1967 totally agree with your answer. and that for me a sign of a human and serious company. Which do it, but could need the money for having the head still above the water...

@hubat yes the word donation used on this context that you told is wrong. That is still a contribution what is meant.
Seems that jolla wanted to give an other word on it, since the finalisation process of the tablet went wrong, and goes to the next process. From word "contribution" could be done an other one like "gift" or "present" but both are bound to the wish of the person who give it, some of tjc don't want to make it. Would be misinterpreted...
As we know now what jolla think with it, and why they use it.
I think that at the end,we may let it as donation word... that just a question of details, otherwise would make some head-bang uselessly ... Best regards

Because your credit card company handles this with IGG instead of Jolla and information between IGG and Jolla about this haven't been exchanged yet (or won't ever be handled with Jolla and IGG will take the hit here).

There has been talks on Jolla Blog about you being able to donate the 2nd half of the refunds when the time comes for it so maybe they implement it and give you the option when they have money to refund the 2nd half.

I second that motion!

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Lucky one! :)

Yes same with me. Confusing email but I guess the lucky ones are the minority.

I bought one Jolla Tablet 64GB from a lucky one of you first batch IGG contributor. Luck doubled :) Lurking in talk.maemo.org buy/sell turned out successful. I already had in corner a Lastu Case collecting dust which I had ordered directly from Lastu webshop long ago. So, disliking the idea of contributing twice the amount for one device I opted in refund inquiry. I'm eagerly follow if when or will TOH be revived to next generation Sailfish phones.