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Which features or options to remove from Sailfish OS [not a question]

asked 2016-10-06 10:05:46 +0200

devarshi84 gravatar image

updated 2016-10-06 10:06:11 +0200

We have a thread asking which new features options to add. But there are also features and options which need to be removed as newer developments keep coming.

This should help the OS run smoother and better being lighter.

I would suggest removal of MMS. Does anybody use these anymore?

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LOL I'd rather remove support for proprietary, closed services than their platform-independent alternatives.

ossi1967 ( 2016-10-06 10:14:12 +0200 )edit

Yes, I use MMS! Daily! Now don't touch it! If you want a phone that gets rid of features, get an iPhone.

Venty ( 2016-10-06 11:42:55 +0200 )edit

MMS is nearly not used, but a standard (contrary to WhatsApp, Threema, ICQ, Telegram, Skype) and should be therefore not removed. It's really seldom used, cost much money and often the receiver didn't configured is device for MMS and Email is much superior (attachments) and SMS/XMPP work much better for fast text-communictiation. But MMS doesn't add bloat. Removing MMS is like removing Cell-Broadcast, both are seldom used but should be supported (e.g. in the later case terrorist or hurricane). If you support GSM and 2G, 3G, 4G than you also support calls, SMS and MMS.

hoschi ( 2016-10-06 11:45:39 +0200 )edit

Absolutely silly idea, I use MMS several times a week!

How else could I brag to my mother about the bagfull of mushrooms I picked from the forest last weekend?

juiceme ( 2016-10-06 12:06:05 +0200 )edit

@hoshi, You are correct there, I have never used Whatsit and other proprietary-non-standard messaging protocols, so I don't really care about those.

Still when they are useless to me I am not suggesting they should be removed. Just keep them away from me, please.

juiceme ( 2016-10-06 12:08:59 +0200 )edit

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answered 2016-10-06 10:40:45 +0200

molan gravatar image

updated 2016-10-06 11:01:51 +0200

Removing MMS and other features certainly won't make the OS run smoother (which already runs pretty fast for given hardware). Bug fixes, cleaning up code and using more efficient code to make sure processes execute faster and use less resources, are the solutions.

In Sailfish OS upgrade changelogs, you can see that Jolla is exactly doing that. There is no need to cripple Sailfish OS - and yes, I use MMS quite often :-)

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Literally nobody sends an MMS (in the past and nowadays), but it is a standard which works by technial cost. And two days ago a friend has send me an important image as MMS, it was the first MMS for me in...years.

hoschi ( 2016-10-06 11:41:32 +0200 )edit

@hoschi: I receive several MMS per week from different people, so "literally nobody sends an MMS" must be wrong.

ossi1967 ( 2016-10-06 11:59:05 +0200 )edit

In some parts of the world it is used heavily, because it is not priced too high, like in Finland.

Especially old people who possibly do not have email or not know how to use it depend on MMS a lot.

juiceme ( 2016-10-06 12:11:08 +0200 )edit

Totally agree with @ossi1967 and @juiceme. In Switzerland MMS are included in most phone plans & depending on the situation it makes more sense to send a picture via MMS than Email - of course there's also WhatsApp and other restricted proprietary services, but I prefer MMS :)

molan ( 2016-10-06 12:32:00 +0200 )edit

answered 2016-10-06 10:29:31 +0200

PatsJolla gravatar image

Why should a option for communication on a communication device be dropped if it doesn't affect the system or user at all if it's not used?

I would expect exactly the opposite: get even more possibilities working ASAP: like native Whatsapp support (big userbase) or other alternative messengers so SFOS gets more interesting to casual users.

And from hardware perspective I would even include IR in the phone design (again). It died with the first iPhones but if you see how many remote control apps are using this feature again especially in the era of many living room devices controlled by classical remotes there is a big potential for developers.

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answered 2016-10-06 12:00:54 +0200

Dankoozy gravatar image

I would love gopher:// support.

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That'd be like candy!

juiceme ( 2016-10-06 12:11:46 +0200 )edit

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