What do you think are the new community device specs? [not relevant]

If I'm not mistaken there was some announcement on twitter (or something like that) were they said that they are not planning official support for Sailfish.

Yes, but for the community device they don't need to provide the same support as for normal end-users.

OK, I thought that community device = official Sailfish support. I don't see any added value in device that doesn't have all advantages of SFOS.

Oh, I like the idea. Community users don't mind to have to use the terminal to install updates, and the port is already existing. They don't have anything to loose by doing that, so.. why not!

Edit: @sepuka to me Sailfish support means phone warranty and support from care@jolla.com. Jolla C doesn't have that, but has a full Sailfish OS.

@Sthocs: it isn't under warranty according to Jolla, but according to EU law it definitely is.

Yeah, the omission of magnetic compass on the Jolla C is indeed a glaring mistake.

Also don't forget multi color LED with intensity control (the Jolla C LED is just white and can be only turned ON and OFF).

@balta@MartinK Phone compass should not be relied on in the woods. In the city it is not difficult to determine direction. The phone compass is such useless feature it is good it was removed.

@alloj: Seriously - this really sounds like a flamebait...

What compass is usually used for:

• arrow to destination in geocaching apps (or basically direction to POI)
• to determine device pointing vector together with accelerometers and gyros for AR stuff (planetariums, games, etc.)
• map rotation
• actual compass application
• can be used to improve overall sensor accuracy by comparing it's data with other sensors, helping to filter out noise
• more

I want a Nokia 6 with SailfishOS on it. (A more powerful processor would be welcome though, but not vital.)

Please give us an AMOLED screen and bring back the glory times of a real LPM screen.

Also the following features would be awesome:

• Not too big phone (Jolla 1 size with 4,5" display is a good size)
• redesigned TOH concept (don't let Motorola MOD concept overtake with your idea and pretend to be the first one)
• better cameras and especially a better camera lens glass
• a better and powerfull (dual) led flash
• FM and infrared transmitter + receiver
• USB C
• maybe slighltly curved display to support the swipe gestures (like the Nokia N9 screen)
• available spare parts
• also please don't drop the already existing features: good design, removable battery, SD card slot, metal frame with Jolla engraving, RGB notification LED, 3.5 headphone jack, compass

Also there are already exisisting polls about requested features:

• https://together.jolla.com/question/88650/poll-jolla-2-smartphone-hw-specs/
• https://together.jolla.com/question/19564/jolla-2nd-device-hw-suggestions/

Please give it a compass this time, that's all I want :)

@Alex I like your suggestions - they are to the point & look generally quite doable with the hardware Jolla should be able to get their hands on (eq. not some cutting edge hardware only the big players like Apple or Samsung can afford to put into customer devices) . :)

I would opt for specs like a Xperia z1 compact - for me the perfect size, good camera, good battery (could be removable though), fast enough - a shame the porting is stuck (and I'm definitely not skilled to be from any help ... - I'm good in hardware and desktop support but no coder ...)

That's one reason why I think it will be (or at least should be) the PuzzlePhone. That has the equivalent to the TOH via USB intrinsincly inbuild into it's modular design.

Given all the deals Jolla announced in the past years... :)

Updating to a much newer Qt release doesn't make sense otherwise? What are you smoking?

Oysters SF will be MTK 64bit anyway.

Oysters SF has disappeared from their Web page. Either it's been converted into the Jolla C+, or it's cancelled for good.

@evo3de the work on aarch64 was done by the community, not Jolla so much so its not necessarily part of customer driven work

@r0kk3rz yes, it was done by the community. But now it´s officialy released in mainline. To ensure the quality of implementation they have to test it first on a development reverence device. No one will release / licence a commercial ARMv8 Device before this job is done

I second this, no matter what specs. Last time I did not manage to get a Jolla C. The real question should be how many will be produced?

"Jolla needs to deliver something radically different, special, unique, to convince customers".

That's why I hope for the PuzzzlePhone. As a modular device, it lifts the idea of the Jolla TOH to a new level. As components can be exchanged throughout the years, it can be maintained for a long time and lacking aspects in the specs can be delivered at a later point in time as needed. And another company than jolla can/will do that job (another finnish one BTW)! Jolla could concentrate on delivering the perfect UX. That looks like the perfect collaboration partners to me.

I agree. It would be the killer mix. If PuzzlePhone were a Sailfish exclusive that would be a fantastic chance to push the OS. It all depends on how willing to bet on SF the PuzzlePhone people are.

@spidernik84 I can't see why the PuzzzlePhone should be exclusively SFOS. As the OS is delivered as a 'brain'-module, there could be the option of an Android brain, SF brain and the like. The more brains the better.

The more people own a PP with the OS of their choosing, the more alternative brains and hearts will be developed and offered, making the overall platform more and more interesting and diverse.

Changing the OS doesn't require flashing the device, just tucking a different brain into the spine and you are good to go. Knowing that you can safely try out an exotic OS and just return to what you know and the exact actual state without having to let go of the investment of the phone if you don't like it could help convincing more people to give it a shot.

I was thinking more as an "initially exclusive", like a few months. But I agree with you on "the more the merrier" :)