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Extending the abilities of the messaging hub

asked 2019-02-26 00:14:56 +0200

Firefox84 gravatar image

What would be great to see, would be an extention of the actual messaging center to a solution like Mozillas Raindrop, which collects the messages from the different sources sms, mms, e-mail, social medias and answers by the way the other user is using the most. This would really create a "hub" and the recipient would always be reached the way he is interacting the most. This was an idea from 2009, i don't understand why this great idea was let down and never was further developped.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mozilla_Raindrop

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Don't know if raindrop is related to BB10:s hub, but there you have a nicely implemented one. Very effective to handle communications with.

melf ( 2019-02-26 07:18:19 +0200 )edit
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Project Raindrop was built about "open web technologies". People just don't use those any more. They use monstrosities like Whatsapp or Facebook.

ossi1967 ( 2019-02-26 10:45:04 +0200 )edit
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Get group MMS working!

SValmont ( 2019-02-27 20:02:04 +0200 )edit

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answered 2019-02-26 22:27:59 +0200

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Hi. I work on an integrated IM solution but it is a long hard road with a lot of issues. The goal is definitely doable and BlackBerry Hub proved that even despite of the internet services becoming completely different nowadays (Facebook, Google and some other services are no longer support XMPP; some service providers even ban users of third-party clients).

In the current era of proprietary IM services such integrated solution has a chance to prove itself with open protocols such as Matrix, Telegram (MTProto), XMPP, Tox, Slack, IRC, SIP (reSIProcate), Gitter, Rocket.Chat, Signal, Discord and so on. For sure the list can meet the demands of some users.

Namely I work on the Telepathy project. It is very complex and need a lot of manpower to come back. Contribution is very welcome, but frankly speaking the project seems to have some hard issues that require a full understanding of the specification and implementation limits. We have some progress and we're going to release initial Telegram and Matrix support in a month or two. After this release our small team will back to work on TelepathyQt, spec, group chat, other protocols support and so on, but without more developers I would not expect a usable 'messaging hub' to be released in the next two years.

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Do you have some public repositories for the things you're working on?

r0kk3rz ( 2019-02-27 03:19:16 +0200 )edit
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I'd happily contribute to a bounty for something like this. From your description though, it seems to me that to really push this project forward needs needs enough money to pay people for their work. Buying pizza and coffee to reward people contributing in their spare time may not be enough.

I'll keep an eye out for your initial Matrix support though. A native SFOS client that can actually notify me when a message arrives would be extremely welcome.

pakman ( 2019-02-28 12:31:10 +0200 )edit

@r0kk3rz Public repositories are available here: https://github.com/TelepathyIM

ahappyhuman ( 2020-04-25 01:08:16 +0200 )edit
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answered 2019-02-26 11:27:34 +0200

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updated 2019-02-26 12:44:22 +0200

A good start would be the implementation of the RCS services into SMS app. Nextcloud Talk would also be a nice feature.

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While i do not disagree i have to add that i see a big minus in nextcloud a) needing google to ring (fdroid version therefore lacks this) and b) a turn server to work properly for normal usage. And of those there seem to be non open available. So not a solution for the average user. Matrix with the option to choose from several servers or host one seems much more user friendly to me. So i do not disagrre with more options - but.my no1 would be mateix

kaktux ( 2019-02-26 18:38:15 +0200 )edit

Hi. I work on an integrated IM solution but it is a long hard road with a lot of issues. The goal is definitely doable and BlackBerry Hub proved that even despite of the internet services becoming completely different nowadays (Facebook, Google and some other services are no longer support XMPP; some service providers even ban users of third-party clients). In the current era of proprietary IM services such integrated solution has a chance to prove itself with open protocols such as Matrix, Telegram (MTProto), XMPP, Tox, Slack, IRC, SIP (reSIProcate), Gitter, Rocket.Chat, Signal, Discord and so on. For sure the list can meet the demands of some users. Namely I work on the Telepathy project. It is very complex and need a lot of manpower to come back. Contribution is very welcome, but frankly speaking the project seems to have some hard issues that require a full understanding of the specification and implementation limits. We have some progress and we're going to release initial Telegram and Matrix support in a month or two. After this release our small team will back to work on TelepathyQt, spec, group chat, other protocols support and so on, but without more developers I would not expect a usable 'messaging hub' to be released in the next two years.

Any news on your project? A multiprotocol chat client for SFOS would be awesome, and extending the abilities :) Thanks for your effort and hard work!

Firefox84 ( 2019-06-20 15:10:44 +0200 )edit
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answered 2019-02-26 07:59:48 +0200

yiannako gravatar image

this is how it was on the n9 with facebook messenger, wazapp, etc mixed in with sms

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