Sony XA2 to Xperia 10 port, is that easier ?

asked 2019-02-27 09:12:12 +0200

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updated 2019-02-27 12:14:08 +0200

sugashrajavelu
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Sony has newly launched a mid ranger Xperia 10. Which is an fantastic upgrade to the XA2 with affordable pricing. The Xperia 10 runs on the same processor as of XA2 (Snapdragon 630).

Will that be easier to port for jolla ?

XA2 is not available in many markets. If jolla ports Sailfish OS for Xperia 10 and release it early, it will be a huge hit and will gain more users.

Everyone likes to buy a new device :)

Post your opinions and what are the hurdles in porting :)

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The Xperia XA2 is just one year old.

swordfish ( 2019-02-27 10:23:08 +0200 )edit

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when Sony add X10 to Open Device Program and release source code then yes.

coderus ( 2019-02-27 10:31:57 +0200 )edit

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i may be wrong, 1 year means a lot in today's smartphone industry. Every company has to update itself in the competitive industry to survive. Jolla has updated itself rapidly these much years and will continue too :)

sugashrajavelu ( 2019-02-27 10:34:50 +0200 )edit

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the XA2 Plus was published in september 2018, thats only half a year ago....

misc11 ( 2019-02-27 11:36:37 +0200 )edit

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Would be a nice device. Only time will tell if sony open it up to the program.

GD ( 2019-02-27 12:12:39 +0200 )edit

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answered 2019-07-12 17:19:39 +0200

coderus

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https://sailfishos.org/wiki/Sailfish_X_Xperia_Android_9_Build_and_Flash

Have you seen this?

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an Android 9 layer (a Baseport 9) ?

hmm....

"Dear Jolla, would you be so kind of backporting it to Xperia XA2 and X ? Pretty please ?"

DrYak ( 2019-07-12 20:57:37 +0200 )edit

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That's great news. I guess we can expect to get an official port soon. It also give a could example to port Sailfish on multiple Sony phones.

ron282 ( 2019-08-31 14:00:00 +0200 )edit

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answered 2019-10-03 14:33:08 +0200

bennypr0fane

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So leszek lesner ist waving around Xperia 10 Plus phones with SfOS installed, apparently. Seems like this has officially happened, then? Mind that he also claims the camera is using Sony's proprietary drivers under SfOS!

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Does anybody know if there is a flashing guide for the 10 plus and which files or Sailfish distribution is needed?

Cryx ( 2019-10-03 17:21:23 +0200 )edit

@Cryx: maybe this is what you're looking for? https://sailfishos.org/wiki/Sailfish_X_Xperia_Android_9_Build_and_Flash#Sailfish_OS_Hardware_Adaptation_Development_Kit_for_Sony_Xperia_10

bennypr0fane ( 2019-11-06 22:59:04 +0200 )edit

Interesting. Maybe this source can compile even for a different chipset. (Because 10 plus has a different CPU/GPU than 10).Upvoted

minojolla ( 2019-11-11 18:48:11 +0200 )edit

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answered 2019-07-12 15:06:07 +0200

kro
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Exactly this seems to be what's going to happen, see topic 8 under "General discussion" in the log of tis week's mer-meeting: http://merproject.org/meetings/mer-meeting/2019/mer-meeting.2019-07-11-08.00.html

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Hey, cool ! Community members are working on a AOSP 8 / Baseport 8 for Xperia X !

(That could also mean potential Aliendalvik 8 on Xperia X if they manage to get the port fully working)

DrYak ( 2019-07-12 21:04:25 +0200 )edit

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answered 2019-07-15 14:27:48 +0200

Sage
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Hi, as mentioned in the community meeting earlier, there is a proof-of-concept adaptation for Xperia 10 for which the repositories can be found from https://github.com/mer-hybris/?q=ganges feel free to contribute.

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answered 2019-10-05 08:11:59 +0200

magullo

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A real comparison between SFOS and Android on Xperia 10 Plus: https://youtu.be/YMkpLcvZUew

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Interesting enough I got down voted. Thank you...

magullo ( 2019-10-05 14:05:39 +0200 )edit

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very interesting video from leszek, thanks for sharing

laubblaeser ( 2019-10-05 21:58:34 +0200 )edit

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@magullo of course you got. You are showing negative things about SF ;)

mSorvisto ( 2019-10-06 10:04:00 +0200 )edit

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This is not a comparison, because it does not measure that there is real work done. That Android can show some intro screen faster, does not mean it can also work faster.

Also devices are not the same (one has less RAM).

deloptes ( 2019-10-09 12:08:57 +0200 )edit

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answered 2019-03-24 11:09:07 +0200

ThijssjihT
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It is listed on Sony's website as open. XA2 was released not that long ago, but some op it's specs are outdated, and I don't like the idea of paying a lot of money for a device that was already outdated by launch. Example: it has a usb 2.0 connection. Technology is already 3 generations further.

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How would SFOS benefit from all that? Who's gonna do and maintain the port?

Kopekenscheich ( 2019-03-24 13:33:02 +0200 )edit

https://developer.sony.com/posts/xperia-10-and-xperia-10-plus-added-to-sonys-open-devices-program/

as it IS open how long until sfos port is avail

jason roland ( 2019-03-25 21:22:54 +0200 )edit

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answered 2019-10-04 09:29:10 +0200

N9Sailfish

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updated 2019-10-04 12:10:18 +0200

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Yes, I'm not finding any reason to buy Sony Xperia 10, when comparing it to the existing Xperia XA2. Please help me what are the reasons?

E.g., With more expensive Xperia 10 than Xperia XA2, XPR 10 has even lower battery capasity than XPR X .

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The reason is that Xperia 10 can be bought and Xperia XA2 cannot be bought any more.

Giacomo Di Giacomo ( 2019-10-04 10:11:42 +0200 )edit

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I bought mine less than two weeks ago. I used the so called Internet to find the best offer.

WT.Sane ( 2019-10-04 10:22:35 +0200 )edit

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You have found some stock leftovers. XA2 are not being manufactured any more and soon will not be available. Moreover, there is one important advantage: the 10 has a decent flash memory amount, unlike the XA2 whose 64 GB version could not be found at least where I live.

Giacomo Di Giacomo ( 2019-10-04 10:25:07 +0200 )edit

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As expected as a result from answers - thanks a lot 😊🤔 - the existing Xperia X and XA2 are (again) left over from everything. Not any updates to 3.1.0.11/12 because of all efforts are put at the moment on Xperia 10 . Are you sure what's next after X... 10 let's say after 12 monts? Criticising this business model - it's not sustainable develop. I think it should be wise to take a call to Greta.

N9Sailfish ( 2019-10-04 11:22:01 +0200 )edit

Good idea. Greta will be able to reach them easily since Sony Mobile is based in Lund, Sweden.

Giacomo Di Giacomo ( 2019-10-04 11:27:57 +0200 )edit

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answered 2019-07-12 17:42:07 +0200

Jk
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updated 2019-07-12 17:50:21 +0200

This post is small troll. X10 is total fail by Sony, when compared to predecessor, Xperia xa2 plus or even basic xa2. Only camera is better and new design. Also X10 have smaller battery.

Big no for another mid range bullshit, xperia x1 will be real reasonable choice.

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agree to disagree

virgi26 ( 2019-07-13 00:37:33 +0200 )edit

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What disagree? You want keep holding lame phone when showing fellows and enoying only partially the unlike experience by Jolla.. We already have this price range phone. We still lack the brilliant oled display, usb 3 and so on. But those mentioned are most wanted imo, and I believe a many of users agree those.

I am known that new xperia 10 have newer drivers/kernel for sailfish use.

Only disagree my straightforwardnes haha.

Jk ( 2019-07-15 18:15:33 +0200 )edit

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@Jk i'm not sure of you are in the right place if you just want to show off before your "fellows". I think it was discussed million times. Jolla is not Apple.

virgi26 ( 2019-07-19 18:22:08 +0200 )edit

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@Jk Why would one need oled or usb3 on a phone - don't you have a computer at home. Be aware that using the phone for reading text is very bad for your eyes.

I need a phone that would fit in my pocket - the display and size of X and normal XA2 was exactly right.

What does not work on the other models so that you would need newer kernel/drivers? These are newer because the hardware is newer.

deloptes ( 2019-10-09 12:15:41 +0200 )edit

@deloptes Oled is basically just everyway better than lcd no matter is it overated ips or other lcd cousins for example with oled you can have feature "show time and date with screen off" just like Nokia n9 did. Sure you can with those ips scams but it will consume battery much faster. Many here TJC voted for that feature so that's relevant feature request by customers.

Make research about oled vs lcd you will fulfill my rest of arguments.

Personally I'm moving files between phone and pc sometimes larger amount of data do for me usb 3 matter. Cause I still prefer local storage policy for music, pictures and so on. Rest of files I treat with cloud services.

Sailfish means to be secure the one of the most relevamt point of using sailfish is just data security. So Those both features are very welcome!

As I already said we have already mid range devices, it's time for something upper tier.

Jk ( 2019-11-02 12:35:09 +0200 )edit

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