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Messenger working in China

asked 2019-02-27 19:26:18 +0200

kaktux gravatar image

As a friend of mine who i just got.into buying sony xa2 will travel to china we were asking ourselves which messenger for texting and/or video/calls works to communicate from china to europe. if you search yiu find lists with eg telegram beeing blocked. so: Which messenger, preferably open source, native or via fdroid/yalp works from china out? anyone experience?

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answered 2019-02-27 19:52:22 +0200

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updated 2019-02-27 19:52:50 +0200

XMPP. SailfishOS has built-in client (but needs to be updated) or your friend can use Conversations (which works well on Sailfish X and can be downloaded from F-Droid).

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If XMPP feels too complicated (because app and account are not that tightly coupled, as many people are used to), you can also try Quicksy (F-Droid or Google-Play). It's basically Conversations, but the first steps are easy (automatic account creation, etc.)

Mario ( 2019-02-27 22:59:21 +0200 )edit
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FYI A friend of mine used XMPP (Conversations app, private server) in Shanghai and Beijing. It was not blocked.

Mario ( 2019-02-28 09:19:53 +0200 )edit
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answered 2019-02-28 00:21:13 +0200

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Do SMS (either encrypted or plain) work in China? Could at least be a fallback solution should other messengers get blocked.

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answered 2019-02-28 03:00:42 +0200

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updated 2019-02-28 03:03:06 +0200

telegram is blocked.

i ve heard from a collegue that you need everyshere for paying something chinese android chat. i will ask.

also something like grab is very helpfull in asia. which leads to google play services... so my xperia x without them.is pretty useless. the intex can at least run grab.

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answered 2019-02-28 03:38:26 +0200

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Matrix is not blocked, and SailfishOS has some native client.

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Xmpp and matrix sounds good to me. Especiaööy since i tried out matrix already. Xmpp on the other hand i used when it was supported out.of.the.box by almost every email provider. But matrix native? I only lnow about riot vs fdroid and matriski native- which seemed to have been abandoned since its early stages. Which native apps do you mean?

kaktux ( 2019-02-28 09:53:38 +0200 )edit

User experience of XMPP got a lot better since back than. Easy end-to-end encryption with OMEMO, no lost messages on mobiles, since server history (MAM), easy foto upload, a really good messenger (Conversations/Quicksy). But, of course, you need to use a good server and a good client/app. With Quicksy first steps are made very easy.

Mario ( 2019-02-28 10:08:43 +0200 )edit
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answered 2019-02-27 23:07:41 +0200

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For video calls no app is required. An alternative ist WebRTC in the browser, e.g., https://talky.io It does not work in the native Jolla browser, though. It works in Firefox (Android app). But last time I checked talky.io user interface was optimized for desktops/laptops; so it's not ideal.

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This would mean jitsi would work, right? As far as i kinow this is webrtc also

kaktux ( 2019-02-28 09:54:46 +0200 )edit

Sorry for the conufusion, I meant, "you can try this", not "I know that it works in China". But, I would guess that it works. Never heared the contrary. Yes, meet.jit.si is also WebRTC.

Mario ( 2019-02-28 10:12:21 +0200 )edit
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