Question: Next jolla and other halves? [not relevant]

100% a free with you!!! want the same too.

Would you be OK if jolla breaks compatibility BUT cooperates with TOH devs so you can have functional TOHs ready upon jolla 2 release?

@ApB nor reason that jolla break compatibility, they are involve in development of an os. They don't want produce smartphone on mass. They must do it to present the potential of their os, that is needed. without hardware, they can't show the best of it. So they will do further in small amount, like this current one, and will be compatible with the old one. otherwise it make no sense. and if people want a bigger, there will come from an other smartphone producer. what is the problem on it? maybe i'm wrong, but seems to me more logic...

To complement a great OS (which i trully believe SF is) you need great hardware to go with it. And IMO the current design -industrial design not the chipset and stuff- isn't one. Hence my view that jolla should break form factor compatibility.

@ApB Ok... i'm not sure to have understood what you mean with industrial design, could you please give more details? i'll be interested to know in which part on detail that you have in mind.

@cemoi71 By design i mean the shape of the plastics/metals/glass that make the phone. In short my gripes with the current design are the size of the body (its big), the square edges and the pointy corners. All these make it feel bad in the hand IMO.

@hook - What changes are suggested for OH2? ...just being curious.

On irc://irc.freenode.net/#jollatohhbd wazd mentioned two modifications:

• move the camera where it was in initial builds (i.e. far in the corner), to make it easier for TOH and more room for it;
• make the TOH stick to the first have with magnets and alignment hooks (instead of snapping hooks) in order to save on space and therefore leaving more room for TOH.

Thanks for letting me know, @hook.

hmmm... better don’t mean incompatible... Sometimes after a while reading comments from other people, i don't find their arguments realistic, distorted from their need and fantasy. Jolla have more interest first to try to hold the compatibility. a redesign costs really a max of money. During the redesign you must have hardware & software dev who will working on a system which don't bring money at the moment, and the next x month/years. Your teams on the current device are reduced, because the other work on the new one. And then when it comes. your dev are splitted between the two device Business/support. Usually firms exploit their device potential at the maximum in more than one device generations. Then they change it, because they have earn enough investments. Her ewe are just at the beginning. If they break it, i think that it will for a really normal and casual design...

Yeah, the problem of the TOH thing is that it makes the phone quite thick.

https://together.jolla.com/question/76202/list-other-halves/ One can gladly add to the list...

If that concept would at least be properly suppoted by the manufacturer itself. I mean, something like the full rainbow of available colors and ambiences for any possible mood / style. But instead, even at the Jolla webshop there is just ONE (!!!) - yes a SINGLE ONE !!! other half available for sale which is not even ridiculous but a groundbraking shame and the very proof to the total failure of this concept. Which once was advertised as the killer feature and now completely abandoned even by Jolla themselves. This I assume already fully approves your suggestion and I am almost conviced that at Jolla HQ people now are working on a more "current style" approach reflecting the latest developments in monolithic designs and have dropped the Other Half concept for good.

Agree Stefanix, it was a gimmick that never took off as expected. Well some may argue that there are lots of exotic projects like TOHKBD, LED backs and such, but most people probably want something that is way more supported from the original manufacturer, Jolla than it has been. Some fancy colors and some wooden backs (most of them constantly out of stock BTW), well for such a concept they should have done something more than that.

Standing post and waiting for chipping in money in a crowd-funded project then waiting X months for something that MAY show up is not everyone's cup of tea.

I put in an inductive charger into mine, well its not really original or unlike these days.

IF there will be a second Jolla (which I for the moment doubt) the best thing would be to keep the removable battery option. But this time of course, it would be nice to be able to BUY batteries.

"and are against people's wish to keep dimensions (mostly thickness) low." - well, the new Jolla can be designed to leave more space for the TOH electronics than it leaves now. If this happens, the TOHs will not increase the thickness of the phone anymore since TOH developers will have 1-2 mm under the TOH plastics where they can fit their stuff.

The whole TOH concept will turn out to be a dead end. You can esily attach (fix) any device on a phone and use Bluetooth for communication between them. The only point about the TOH is that it makes Jolla look unique. Paying 35 EUR to Jolla to have a different TOH is an absurd to me, same as attaching a keyboard that will turn it into a sandwich. All the missing hw features (wifi charging, qwerty keyb...) can be built into the phone for the same price amount that I bought my Jolla for at the start, and have it packed with a thin keyboard like tha beautiful E7.

the current size of the phone should be able to accommodate a 5 inch screen, no need to change dimensions.

Yeah but the problem is that mother nature is kind of slow and our hands won't grow in the next 6-7 months. The current phone is big. And if its not big for you give it to a woman and tell her to use it with one hand.

ApB You are right, women can't really use the Jolla because it is too big for their hands. For me it is fine even though I would prefer a slightly smaller device (BUT with same screen size). The edges can be done smaller in the next device so the device will get smaller keeping the screen size. Or if Jolla keeps the current dimensions, they should increase the screen size and make smaller edges.

I think if you reduce the size of the bottom edge you can get to have a 4.7 inch screen without increasing the size of the phone

LOL. I guess all the girls I see with 5" or larger phones must have gigantic hands, then. South East Asians (men and women) tend to have considerably smaller hands than people from Western Europe, and yet 5.5" and 6" phones are more popular there than anywhere else in the world. I honestly get the impression that half of you have never even held a phone larger than the Jolla, or that those concerned that smaller bezels will lead to a non-functioning phone must never have used a touchscreen device before the Jolla ... Sharp's latest Aquos phones essentially have NO bezel and have ridiculously accurate touch.

Nexpaq surfaced pretty exactly same time as did Fonkraft, the modular smartphone, which also held exactly $50k target as well. While Fonkraft was deemed to be unrealistic if not a scam, with it's release dated to this October? Fonkraft's Indiegogo-page has disappeared while Nexpaq's Kickstarter flourishes, for how long I wonder.

http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=95434