Jolla Radar - An unlike Suite
Driven by several ideas and needs I read in tjc questions over the last couple of days I came to the idea of writing a requirements specification for a Suite - main goal replace MTP. Yes I know there is already talking about Jolla Docks
but I expect it to be Win/Mac only like it always is... so why not have a on the phone based standalone-leave-alone Suite?
Implementation is a whole other thing. I want to start another argument as I will be very unhappy with being forced to use services like younited when I could actually just send files via BT.
Basics
Connectivity
- USB Networking - the device has to present itself as a network device without the need to pull in 3rd party drivers (important for windows to work).
- WLan
- BT Networking - needs to be OTF std protocol
Export
- Filesystem
- Controls
- Settings
- Screen
- Internet
Frontend
- Filebrowser (upload/download files/folders, limited to android, sdcard & /home/nemo/ with(out) .dot files)
- Mediaplayer (remote)
- Messaging
- Calendar(manager)
- Gallery
- Videoplayer
- Accountmanagement
- Screen remote
- Backup&Restore
Advanced
On the phone side
- security measures (ssl, password protection, guest area)
- remote features - {dyndns (afraid.org, noip.com, etc), location-upload/tracking}
- lightweight webserver
- HTML5
- USB/BT tethering opens browser on client with login page
- no-flash or other proprietary software needed (no MTP or other BS)
- guest-account (shares, CIFS)
On the Desktop/Notebook side (uhh what I thought this is a standalone, sure it is... read on!)
- backupdaemon
- tracking trigger
- no-java, no-python
- bare-gui for settings (path for location-tracking/backups etc, dns/IP to look for, ssh-key-management, credentials) everything else needs to go to the browser as we do not want anything being installed ever if backupdaemon and location tracking are not to be used remotely
tbc
Update: 2014/11
With Jolla Tablet
scheduled for next year I feel like this is going to be outdated before anything is on the horizon already. We can cope with limitations on our phones but a device that is used at home by most $user it is very important to have a seamless user experience. Therefore Jolla Radar
should not be limited by my idea of remote access but shall also evolve to an integrated system. The tablet should have control over the phone and the phone should have control over the tablet too. Second screen, sync content, independent multitasking and probably also multi-user experiencefor homes with more phones than tablets. Read further @ https://together.jolla.com/question/63867/request-jolla-tablet-idea-jolla-tablet-jolla-smartphone-pairingcommunication/ ! In general, the tablet will have the same shortcomings when it comes to home entertainment and wlan-only user-experience like the phone (cannot send files, share folders, sync playlists, dlna, upnp... with stock system or very limited with third-party apps).
As MTP is not working for people there needs to be an alternative asap, I for one can only access my phone at work if I ssh to it over company wlan as I am stuck with winXP for now, no working driver and no sdcard-reader at hand. I cannot even send files over BT and a guest-account to Radar
or CIFS/Samba share would come very handy.
For reference please see:
Do we have any indication that jolla is actually working on a cross desktop solution?? Their resources are quite limited. We have seen apps like sailserver but they are not fully working right now. And things like avahi (that will make it easier) are missing.
I'd like it if someone from jolla commended on this. And maybe give us a preview of what they have in mind.
ApB ( 2014-05-07 15:54:27 +0200 )editI was about to say the same thing as ApB, as far as I know there hasn't been any word from Jolla regarding a PC suite, all that has happened so far is community speculation over what it should do and what its name should be (if it is ever going to exist in the first place).
nthn ( 2014-05-07 20:06:41 +0200 )edit@ApB@nthn you both did not read through it well enough, I am asking to build an on-devicestandalone solution or actually I am giving requirements. Nothing about a cross-platform suite or do you call a backupdaemon and tracking logs a suite? The idea came from the need for people or better $users of having an alternative to MTP.
chemist ( 2014-05-07 21:16:24 +0200 )editI meant something that will work without installing stuff on your computer as it has been proposed by the community. We don't have any indication that jolla is working on something to replace the (problematic for many people) MTP solution it uses now. Hence the question.
ApB ( 2014-05-07 21:46:47 +0200 )editI like you idear , right now I use bitsync for andriod and it works ok,so a deamon like that could be neat !!
Mr.Thumb ( 2014-05-07 22:17:56 +0200 )edit