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Where are my preferred basic features? [not a question]

asked 2014-07-14 14:00:26 +0300

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updated 2014-12-01 20:38:09 +0300

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Now I have my Jolla since December 2013 and I am using it since then. Actually, I have no great demands on apps.

I always thought, that a Smartphone with a new OS, should bring some basic apps from the start, but I was wrong.

As former Iphone user, the first weeks were painful, the gestures were fast learned, but little native apps and always the same sturdy answer: there is an android app, are frustrating.

If I wanted to use android apps, I would have bought me a nexus. And the crappy apps of the preinstalled Yandex store didn't make it better. I have no experience with Linux, so always I read "open the terminal", my frustration level roses, and the google store was unreachable for me. In the meantime Aptoide brought a significant improvement

I understand the pro developer, that they want to paid for their work, so the 1st missing feature is paid apps to get more and good native apps into harbour.

The 2nd missing feature is a native turn by turn navigation app. It must not be with offline maps at the start, but almost every little crappy smartphone comes with a native navigation.

The 3rd missing feature is a working calendar with notifications and without using Google or Outlook. I still get no notifications when my contacts have birthday.

The 4th missing feature is webcal/ics. I thought webcal/ics is a standard, but I was wrong probably.

The 5th is….big announcements and then nothing official from Jolla about delays or so. What about Rovio, Makia, Younited and Appello (HERE maps app developer, and no news after they turned to OSM)?

At the moment I don't care what little nice gimmicks are posted on Twitter or Facebook, if my preferred features are not working. Maybe this is a hacker friendly smartphone, but for me as a normal user it is not.

I really hoped, that we will get a European competitor for Android and IOS and I give Jolla the chance to put foot down. My personal deadline is the 1st anniversary of the launch date, Nov, 27th.

Jolla, it is up to you, if I am gonna be a Sailor or an Apple disciple in December.


PS: There is no need for comments (everebody has it's own preferences), just an official statement would be nice.

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i totally agree!!!

peter-berlin ( 2014-07-14 14:54:22 +0300 )edit

Bragi, the first device of a new OS is pretty much never good and almost always targeted at developers and hackers. The first iPhone was a joke, didn't do a lot of what competitors did — heck it took them over a year to have copy-paste. Sorry you're disappointed, but I think you might have bought a phone that isn't (yet) for you :-( give it some time!

lalomartins ( 2014-07-14 18:09:20 +0300 )edit

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answered 2014-07-14 16:04:56 +0300

updated 2014-07-14 16:06:04 +0300

This comment was getting long, so I had to convert to answer. It's not my intention to answer :)

I am currently using an Android phone, mainly for a few missing, essential features on my Jolla. And I do really agree with most, if not all, your points. But I have to say that, in my experience, no other company has done what Jolla has done up to now. And I mean not only releasing a working phone, but listening, to community.

  • release with lots of feature and improvements every month
  • feature planned also based on community feedback (priorities can clash with internal plans, but hey, they gave us caldav!)

I think the path is really long, and maybe December will not be the end of it. But I do still believe in this project, in its ideas and beliefs. Just to say a few things that no one has:

  • developer mode is something that, well, is amazing
  • integrated messaging system, no other has it (WP has sort of, but not as potentially powerful). Twitter, XMPP, in general telepathy framework
  • sleek, beautiful (at least for me) UI, with its flaws, I know, but they are working every month making it better and better.

In the end, no other mobile phone could give me what Jolla (almost) gives, and I have faith that this autumn will be amazing.

A Jolla lover.

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Yes, as you said, you agree with most of my points.

And in my opinion it is still a hacker/geek phone and not useful for the "normal" user. Chatting, calling, SMS, Facebook, Twitter, Navigation and an app for every crap is what the normal user wants. He/She sees a tv-spot and wants to download the app for the product....android/iphone user opens store and download, the Jolla users without Google Play starts to search the android side store, hoping to find the apk, and hopes it's mailwarefree. When the Iphone started in 2007 there were 60 apps, at the end of 2008 the App Store had 10.000 apps. And now, 6 years later, we have the new Jolla Smartphone, and the normal customer wants the same as before....a working Smartphone and apps for anything and nothing.

My wife's (Iphone user) statement was: looks good, gestures looking nice, but low of apps, nothing for me.

Bragi ( 2014-07-17 14:18:38 +0300 )edit

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