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[request] Improve inefficient interaction flow [answered]

asked 2014-12-06 04:05:29 +0200

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updated 2014-12-07 04:00:14 +0200

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Let me first start by saying that I do not and will not use a phone one-handed.

I must say that the experience is not smooth. Problems:

I am not saying you should alter the one-handed UX for all users, but that you should provide such an alternative two-handed UX mode.

That's it for now

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Lots of things here, each of which I believe already has their own thread. No offense, but there is no point in posting "things I find annoying" lists, when each item can be (and is already being) discussed & voted for in their own thread.

ssahla ( 2014-12-06 09:58:49 +0200 )edit

How long have you used the Jolla? Some elements of the UI may take a little bit of time to get used to. E.g. the app drawer being below the home screen instead lf to the right.

I don't understand how closing an app is burdensome. You can do it with a 'Push' gesture from outside the top of the screen. Even easier than a X-button imho.

Intro of gestures can be found here:


You are right that settings/toggles should be more easily available. Please vote/comment here:


bilgy_no1 ( 2014-12-06 10:07:16 +0200 )edit

I've used it for a week. It's very tiring, not efficient.

pulsar ( 2014-12-06 11:38:40 +0200 )edit

@pulsar please elaborate as to why you would like some of these changes? a lot of them seem to be change for change sake, or "because android does it this way"

r0kk3rz ( 2014-12-06 12:17:56 +0200 )edit

I don't want them because of Android, I want them because BB10 does it better. I already supported BlackBerry when they were at rock bottom, and now it's the turn to encourage Jolla. The interaction might be good for one-handed use, but not for two-handed. I needed an additional phone, and I am excited about the Jolla and love participating in its improvement, but I've started thinking if I should keep the Z10 for myself because it is more practical (not talking about apps). Note that I am not hard-core BlackBerry. The Z10 was my first and only one.

pulsar ( 2014-12-06 12:25:17 +0200 )edit

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answered 2014-12-06 11:47:47 +0200

teun gravatar image

Almost all of your objections here are key sailfish ui features and seems like you would be better of on ios or android ..

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Before downvoting the question any more, please join a discussion here: https://together.jolla.com/question/680/co-creation-leading-to-co-development/?answer=69812#post-id-69812

simo ( 2014-12-07 20:44:36 +0200 )edit

answered 2014-12-07 18:36:18 +0200

DrBlock42 gravatar image

I think you're only right abbout the options. I think it's much to hard to quick acces your options. But in the mash-up for SailfishOS 2.0, they are accesable from the notification screen...

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answered 2014-12-06 12:27:20 +0200

pulsar gravatar image

updated 2014-12-06 12:50:09 +0200

They might be key features for one-handed use, but it does not have a two-handed-optimized mode. If I were not interested in seeing Jolla grow too, I would have just stayed with BlackBerry.

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I suggest you still stay with other OS'. Please don't ruin Sailfish for all of us.

avhakola ( 2014-12-07 05:08:00 +0200 )edit

Define two handed. Two handed portrait or two handed landscape?

r0kk3rz ( 2014-12-07 05:32:53 +0200 )edit

I can use Jolla without problems with one hand (both hands, right is weaker because I'm left handed), two hands on portrait and two hands on landscape and I don't feel handicapped or un-optimized. Give Sailfish few more weeks to grow on you and if after that you still feel unhappy, try GlacierUI or another phone.

avhakola ( 2014-12-07 05:44:26 +0200 )edit


I don't understand what you mean about not having a 'two-handed-optimized mode'. If it's easy to use a phone with one hand, then surely it can't be a problem to use it with two hands. You write above:

Yes, there's no rule that you should look for apps downwards, so it should be possible to look for them sideways, as this is more comfortable when using two-handed. However, a left-handed person might find it better to the left than to the right, so both additional options should be provided.

But I just don't see how, from the perspective of one-handed vs. two-handed use, it would make any difference to swipe left/right to go through apps or up/down. Frankly, I just tried it on Jolla vs. HTC One M8 and find that the up/down swipe is easier and more natural than left/right.

bilgy_no1 ( 2014-12-07 13:05:19 +0200 )edit

You can use it with both hands, but it is not optimised for such, because of the constraints imposed so that it can work well with one hand. Again, I did not say the current mode of operation should be removed.

pulsar ( 2014-12-07 14:02:45 +0200 )edit

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