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[Suggestion] Sell Sailfish OS for other Intel based Tablets

asked 2015-01-02 22:04:31 +0200

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updated 2015-01-03 09:01:21 +0200

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Perhaps this is already being considered by the Jolla team, but I thought I'd suggest it just in case ...

It is well known that Intel has been quite aggressive in pushing their tablet platform to the market. And this perhaps has turned out to be a real blessing for Jolla as they had a ready-made hardware reference design (from Intel) to develop the new Jolla Tablet. When I compare the specs of other Intel tablets in the market, it appears that they too seem to be using very similar hardware as the Jolla tablet implying that they too may be using a common reference design from Intel.

This is great as it means porting Sailfish OS to these intel-based tablets would be much easier.

It would also give Jolla the opportunity to actually dip their toe and test out their business model - selling software(s) - while also providing more opportunity to test the OS on more diverse hardware. (I understand that Jolla would prefer to have a B2B relationship and deal with volumes, but since that doesn't seem to be happening, they should consider selling directly to the consumers. Competition is also likely to increase as Samsung pushes Tizen more aggressively from this year.)

I would be very willing to pay a reasonable amount for buying Sailfish OS for, say for example, Chinese tablets like these 2:
-> http://www.teclast.com/en/zt/X98Air/
-> http://www.onda.cn/Tablet/ProductInfo.aspx?ProductId=313

(These aren't exactly similar to the Jolla Tablet as they have larger screens and so probably use a slightly different reference design from Intel. However most of the hardware should be the same. The newly launched Nokia tablet comes to mind too ...)

Both the companies I gave as examples above - Onda and Teclast - already offer two operating systems for these tablet, namely Android 4+ and MS Windows 8+. And they also charge extra and "sell" you MS Windows 8+ if you would prefer to use that instead of Android (or even to dual boot with Android). Also, most of these tablets don't appear to have a locked bootlooader so maybe you could sell the OS directly to the consumer too.

I would like to add that I am not a big fan of Intel. But I understand that the ARM platform might be too diverse (and too closed source) for Jolla to successfully target for porting. As such, the Intel platform as a stopgap would be quite acceptable to the community.

Additionally, this would also give Sailfish OS fans like me, who didn't purchase the Jolla tablet (because the hardware specs didn't suit their requirement) an opportunity to continue supporting Jolla.

(Please don't just wait for Nokia to enter the mobile handset business again and buy you out ... )

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answered 2015-01-02 22:34:36 +0200

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updated 2015-01-03 21:37:55 +0200

I'm quite sure the Jolla team is constantly trying to strike new partnerships and licensing deals, but it's not very easy. It's a given that they would want to do that since adoption is the key to success.

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I am quite ignorant about any licensing requirements. What kind of licensing do they require? Wouldn't a reference design also include any license if it were to be used commercially?

sifartech ( 2015-01-03 08:22:38 +0200 )edit
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if you mean Intel licenses sure, but not SailfishOS licenses.

That said, the only real proven business model when it comes to mobile operating systems is to give them away for free and make money off app sales, which is a little hard to do without paid apps on harbour.

r0kk3rz ( 2015-01-03 12:13:50 +0200 )edit

As @r0kk3rz says, Jolla has to find a different path, selling SailfishOS isn't a model that will work, as long as Microsoft already tried it and in the end it had to buy Nokia to sell its operating system(with hw). Google doesn't sell android, the core is Open Source, that's why all companies use it.

magullo ( 2015-01-03 21:14:22 +0200 )edit

@r0kk3rz - I didn't get your point. @Toxip said that it is difficult for Jolla to strike "licensing deals". From my limited knowledge, it appears to me that Jolla has already reached an agreement with Intel to develop and sell Sailfish OS on that platform. So what is the issue if they sell Sailfish OS for some other Intel tablet that uses the same or slightly different reference design? (Like I said before, I am quite ignorant about "licensing", and would appreciate more info.)

sifartech ( 2015-01-03 21:31:31 +0200 )edit

@magullo well technically Android is free if you fork it from AOSP but companies have to pay for the google play services. Companies use it because of how popular it is. AFAIK, Microsoft also licenses their OS besides selling their own devices, but that's not why they've failed. Companies have to pay one way or another and I bet Sailfish OS is much cheaper than other OSs.

Toxip ( 2015-01-03 21:40:06 +0200 )edit
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