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Does Jolla ship with a backdoor to Russia? [answered]

asked 2015-06-01 18:08:38 +0300

chemist gravatar image

updated 2015-06-02 12:15:51 +0300

According to http://www.phonearena.com/news/Surprise-surprise-Russian-YotaPhone-comes-with-a-backdoor-for-the-KGB-to-spy-on-you_id69930 YotaPhone is required to have a backdoor to be allowed to be sold in Russia

"The FSB will have access [to users' information]. We don't have the right to sell phones on the market in any other way - otherwise, the devices could be used by terrorists, criminals," said Chemezov.

Where is Jolla's backdoor? Does this only apply to Russian companies?

Update: For those wondering where this came from the original interview transcript is http://www.vedomosti.ru/business/characters/2015/06/01/594526-mi-poluchili-vozmozhnost-sozdat-vsyo-svoe - if that is not fake already (no idea how credible they are) the translation seems legit

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I would really like Jolla to give an official statement on this cooperation. For me, this whole thing with official government backed cooperations is very disconcerting, since most of them are based on political interest alone.

shfit ( 2015-06-01 18:32:08 +0300 )edit
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Latest update of cited article: "Yota PR now officially claims that there is NO backdoor on YotaPhones and blames Russian media (the original source of the report) for misunderstanding Mr. Chemezov". So may be there is no reason to worry.

petRUShka ( 2015-06-01 19:03:52 +0300 )edit
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I think all phones, smart or not, have the backdoor from the base cellular station. Its not in the OS, but in the gsm-module which is not open source (except Open Gsm Stack)

zaharov.andrei ( 2015-06-01 20:18:52 +0300 )edit
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@zaharov.andrei That's one of the reasons why the Neo 900 has a separate GSM modem, which can be also powered-off by the application processor.

MartinK ( 2015-06-01 21:07:40 +0300 )edit
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As always, in Big R its always the press misunderstanding ;)

tortoisedoc ( 2015-06-01 22:12:06 +0300 )edit

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answered 2015-06-02 00:35:33 +0300

Philippe De Swert gravatar image

updated 2015-06-02 00:36:58 +0300

Whatever vague allegations are being made in those articles, Jolla does not ship a backdoor. That would be like shooting ourselves in the foot while we promote openess and privacy. I also doubt it is a requirement to sell as first stated, as that conflicts with the I-terrorist-phone which supposedly does not have one (or at least not an FSB one). Anyway lots of conflicting, incomplete info and speculation. And to be honest I don't think any company would consider it wise to tell the world that their products are backdoored. Most likely a number of things were taken out of context/badly understood/mistranslated and then blown up out of proportion. True or not we can only speculate.

As stated in all the other backdoor threads already on t.j.c. We cannot be 100% sure something is hidden in the binary blobs on the modem side (thanks Qualcomm...) but to the best of our knowledge there is not. Also most likely if such backdoor would possiblky exist it would have been made to work with Android, which means would likely break or not work well, as it would not be compatible with Sailfish. Nor would any secret evil agency spend much effort on dealing with a small vendor OS with a small market share. (Wich will hopefully grow bigger in the future ;)

Also I think we have proven to be quite reactive to all kinds of security issues and have delivered timely updates to deal with the big ones (the recent openssl troubles etc... for example). There are still improvements coming as we sailors ourselves use Jolla phones and prefer them backdoor free and secure.

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Thanks for your clarification.

M.Bln. ( 2015-06-02 00:40:25 +0300 )edit
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"to the best of our knowledge" is what I expected, just needed to hear it out loud - thank you! The closed modem blob is an issue of all vendors I guess and nothing unexpected, silent SMS implementations among other things are part of the default GSM stack...

chemist ( 2015-06-02 11:24:47 +0300 )edit
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Thank you!

g7 ( 2015-06-02 12:22:08 +0300 )edit

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