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posted 2014-05-07 14:29:41 +0200

Jolla Radar - An unlike Suite to get rid of MTP

Driven by several ideas and needs I read in tjc questions over the last couple of days I came to the idea of writing a requirements specification for a Suite. Yes I know there is already talking about Jolla Docks but I expect it to be Win/Mac only like it always is... so why not have a on the phone based standalone-leave-alone Suite?

Implementation is a whole other thing. I want to start another argument as I will be very unhappy with being forced to use services like younited when I could actually just send files via BT.

Basics

Connectivity

  • USB Networking - the device has to present itself as a network device without the need to pull in 3rd party drivers (important for windows to work).
  • WLan
  • BT Networking - needs to be OTF std protocol

Export

  • Filesystem
  • Controls
  • Settings
  • Screen
  • Internet

Frontend

  • Filebrowser (upload/download files/folders, limited to android, sdcard & /home/nemo/ with(out) .dot files)
  • Mediaplayer (remote)
  • Messaging
  • Calendar(manager)
  • Gallery
  • Videoplayer
  • Accountmanagement
  • Backup&Restore

Advanced

On the phone side

  • security measures (ssl, password protection, guest area)
  • remote features - {dyndns (afraid.org, noip.com, etc), location-upload/tracking}
  • lightweight webserver
  • HTML5
  • USB/BT tethering opens browser on client with login page
  • no-flash or other proprietary software needed (no MTP or other BS)
  • guest-account (shares, CIFS)

On the Desktop/Notebook side (uhh what I thought this is a standalone, sure it is... read on!)

  • backupdaemon
  • tracking trigger
  • no-java, no-python
  • bare-gui for settings (path for location-tracking/backups etc, dns/IP to look for, ssh-key-management, credentials) everything else needs to go to the browser as we do not want anything being installed ever if backupdaemon and location tracking are not to be used remotely

tbc


As MTP is not working for people there needs to be an alternative asap, I for one can only access my phone at work if I ssh to it over company wlan as I am stuck with winXP for now, no working driver and no sdcard-reader at hand. I cannot even send files over BT and a guest-account to Radaror CIFS/Samba share would come very handy.

Jolla Radar - An unlike Suite to get rid of MTP

Driven by several ideas and needs I read in tjc questions over the last couple of days I came to the idea of writing a requirements specification for a Suite. Suite - main goal replace MTP. Yes I know there is already talking about Jolla Docks but I expect it to be Win/Mac only like it always is... so why not have a on the phone based standalone-leave-alone Suite?

Implementation is a whole other thing. I want to start another argument as I will be very unhappy with being forced to use services like younited when I could actually just send files via BT.

Basics

Connectivity

  • USB Networking - the device has to present itself as a network device without the need to pull in 3rd party drivers (important for windows to work).
  • WLan
  • BT Networking - needs to be OTF std protocol

Export

  • Filesystem
  • Controls
  • Settings
  • Screen
  • Internet

Frontend

  • Filebrowser (upload/download files/folders, limited to android, sdcard & /home/nemo/ with(out) .dot files)
  • Mediaplayer (remote)
  • Messaging
  • Calendar(manager)
  • Gallery
  • Videoplayer
  • Accountmanagement
  • Backup&Restore

Advanced

On the phone side

  • security measures (ssl, password protection, guest area)
  • remote features - {dyndns (afraid.org, noip.com, etc), location-upload/tracking}
  • lightweight webserver
  • HTML5
  • USB/BT tethering opens browser on client with login page
  • no-flash or other proprietary software needed (no MTP or other BS)
  • guest-account (shares, CIFS)

On the Desktop/Notebook side (uhh what I thought this is a standalone, sure it is... read on!)

  • backupdaemon
  • tracking trigger
  • no-java, no-python
  • bare-gui for settings (path for location-tracking/backups etc, dns/IP to look for, ssh-key-management, credentials) everything else needs to go to the browser as we do not want anything being installed ever if backupdaemon and location tracking are not to be used remotely

tbc


As MTP is not working for people there needs to be an alternative asap, I for one can only access my phone at work if I ssh to it over company wlan as I am stuck with winXP for now, no working driver and no sdcard-reader at hand. I cannot even send files over BT and a guest-account to Radaror CIFS/Samba share would come very handy.

Jolla Radar - An unlike Suite to get rid of MTP

Driven by several ideas and needs I read in tjc questions over the last couple of days I came to the idea of writing a requirements specification for a Suite - main goal replace MTP. Yes I know there is already talking about Jolla Docks but I expect it to be Win/Mac only like it always is... so why not have a on the phone based standalone-leave-alone Suite?

Implementation is a whole other thing. I want to start another argument as I will be very unhappy with being forced to use services like younited when I could actually just send files via BT.

Basics

Connectivity

  • USB Networking - the device has to present itself as a network device without the need to pull in 3rd party drivers (important for windows to work).
  • WLan
  • BT Networking - needs to be OTF std protocol

Export

  • Filesystem
  • Controls
  • Settings
  • Screen
  • Internet

Frontend

  • Filebrowser (upload/download files/folders, limited to android, sdcard & /home/nemo/ with(out) .dot files)
  • Mediaplayer (remote)
  • Messaging
  • Calendar(manager)
  • Gallery
  • Videoplayer
  • Accountmanagement
  • Screen remote
  • Backup&Restore

Advanced

On the phone side

  • security measures (ssl, password protection, guest area)
  • remote features - {dyndns (afraid.org, noip.com, etc), location-upload/tracking}
  • lightweight webserver
  • HTML5
  • USB/BT tethering opens browser on client with login page
  • no-flash or other proprietary software needed (no MTP or other BS)
  • guest-account (shares, CIFS)

On the Desktop/Notebook side (uhh what I thought this is a standalone, sure it is... read on!)

  • backupdaemon
  • tracking trigger
  • no-java, no-python
  • bare-gui for settings (path for location-tracking/backups etc, dns/IP to look for, ssh-key-management, credentials) everything else needs to go to the browser as we do not want anything being installed ever if backupdaemon and location tracking are not to be used remotely

tbc


As MTP is not working for people there needs to be an alternative asap, I for one can only access my phone at work if I ssh to it over company wlan as I am stuck with winXP for now, no working driver and no sdcard-reader at hand. I cannot even send files over BT and a guest-account to Radaror CIFS/Samba share would come very handy.

Jolla Radar - An unlike Suite to get rid of MTPSuite

Driven by several ideas and needs I read in tjc questions over the last couple of days I came to the idea of writing a requirements specification for a Suite - main goal replace MTP. Yes I know there is already talking about Jolla Docks but I expect it to be Win/Mac only like it always is... so why not have a on the phone based standalone-leave-alone Suite?

Implementation is a whole other thing. I want to start another argument as I will be very unhappy with being forced to use services like younited when I could actually just send files via BT.

Basics

Connectivity

  • USB Networking - the device has to present itself as a network device without the need to pull in 3rd party drivers (important for windows to work).
  • WLan
  • BT Networking - needs to be OTF std protocol

Export

  • Filesystem
  • Controls
  • Settings
  • Screen
  • Internet

Frontend

  • Filebrowser (upload/download files/folders, limited to android, sdcard & /home/nemo/ with(out) .dot files)
  • Mediaplayer (remote)
  • Messaging
  • Calendar(manager)
  • Gallery
  • Videoplayer
  • Accountmanagement
  • Screen remote
  • Backup&Restore

Advanced

On the phone side

  • security measures (ssl, password protection, guest area)
  • remote features - {dyndns (afraid.org, noip.com, etc), location-upload/tracking}
  • lightweight webserver
  • HTML5
  • USB/BT tethering opens browser on client with login page
  • no-flash or other proprietary software needed (no MTP or other BS)
  • guest-account (shares, CIFS)

On the Desktop/Notebook side (uhh what I thought this is a standalone, sure it is... read on!)

  • backupdaemon
  • tracking trigger
  • no-java, no-python
  • bare-gui for settings (path for location-tracking/backups etc, dns/IP to look for, ssh-key-management, credentials) everything else needs to go to the browser as we do not want anything being installed ever if backupdaemon and location tracking are not to be used remotely

tbc

Update: 2014/11

With Jolla Tablet scheduled for next year I feel like this is going to be outdated before anything is on the horizon already. We can cope with limitations on our phones but a device that is used at home by most $user it is very important to have a seamless user experience. Therefore Jolla Radar should not be limited by my idea of remote access but shall also evolve to an integrated system. The tablet should have control over the phone and the phone should have control over the tablet too. Second screen, sync content, independent multitasking and probably also multi-user experience for homes with more phones than tablets. Read further @ https://together.jolla.com/question/63867/request-jolla-tablet-idea-jolla-tablet-jolla-smartphone-pairingcommunication/ ! In general, the tablet will have the same shortcomings when it comes to home entertainment and wlan-only user-experience like the phone (cannot send files, share folders, sync playlists, dlna, upnp... with stock system or very limited with third-party apps).


As MTP is not working for people there needs to be an alternative asap, I for one can only access my phone at work if I ssh to it over company wlan as I am stuck with winXP for now, no working driver and no sdcard-reader at hand. I cannot even send files over BT and a guest-account to Radaror CIFS/Samba share would come very handy.

Jolla Radar - An unlike Suite

Driven by several ideas and needs I read in tjc questions over the last couple of days I came to the idea of writing a requirements specification for a Suite - main goal replace MTP. Yes I know there is already talking about Jolla Docks but I expect it to be Win/Mac only like it always is... so why not have a on the phone based standalone-leave-alone Suite?

Implementation is a whole other thing. I want to start another argument as I will be very unhappy with being forced to use services like younited when I could actually just send files via BT.

Basics

Connectivity

  • USB Networking - the device has to present itself as a network device without the need to pull in 3rd party drivers (important for windows to work).
  • WLan
  • BT Networking - needs to be OTF std protocol

Export

  • Filesystem
  • Controls
  • Settings
  • Screen
  • Internet

Frontend

  • Filebrowser (upload/download files/folders, limited to android, sdcard & /home/nemo/ with(out) .dot files)
  • Mediaplayer (remote)
  • Messaging
  • Calendar(manager)
  • Gallery
  • Videoplayer
  • Accountmanagement
  • Screen remote
  • Backup&Restore

Advanced

On the phone side

  • security measures (ssl, password protection, guest area)
  • remote features - {dyndns (afraid.org, noip.com, etc), location-upload/tracking}
  • lightweight webserver
  • HTML5
  • USB/BT tethering opens browser on client with login page
  • no-flash or other proprietary software needed (no MTP or other BS)
  • guest-account (shares, CIFS)

On the Desktop/Notebook side (uhh what I thought this is a standalone, sure it is... read on!)

  • backupdaemon
  • tracking trigger
  • no-java, no-python
  • bare-gui for settings (path for location-tracking/backups etc, dns/IP to look for, ssh-key-management, credentials) everything else needs to go to the browser as we do not want anything being installed ever if backupdaemon and location tracking are not to be used remotely

tbc

Update: 2014/11

With Jolla Tablet scheduled for next year I feel like this is going to be outdated before anything is on the horizon already. We can cope with limitations on our phones but a device that is used at home by most $user it is very important to have a seamless user experience. Therefore Jolla Radar should not be limited by my idea of remote access but shall also evolve to an integrated system. The tablet should have control over the phone and the phone should have control over the tablet too. Second screen, sync content, independent multitasking and probably also multi-user experience for homes with more phones than tablets. Read further @ https://together.jolla.com/question/63867/request-jolla-tablet-idea-jolla-tablet-jolla-smartphone-pairingcommunication/ ! In general, the tablet will have the same shortcomings when it comes to home entertainment and wlan-only user-experience like the phone (cannot send files, share folders, sync playlists, dlna, upnp... with stock system or very limited with third-party apps).


As MTP is not working for people there needs to be an alternative asap, I for one can only access my phone at work if I ssh to it over company wlan as I am stuck with winXP for now, no working driver and no sdcard-reader at hand. I cannot even send files over BT and a guest-account to Radaror CIFS/Samba share would come very handy.

For reference please see:

  • http://ajenti.org
  • http://web.airdroid.com/
  • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KkCFngNmsh0