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asked 2014-01-07 21:22:05 +0200

OL gravatar image

In my country most banks have mobilebanking app's for Android - but You can only have them from Google Play (wich doesn't accept Jolla). I'd like a solution for sailfish.

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I have installed the apk from MigrosBank, but it keeps on forgetting that it has been initialised with the ebanking USB-stick and so I have to log in to PC-ebanking to redo the initializing.

ausgeregelt ( 2014-01-07 21:25:19 +0200 )edit

Would be nice to get as native sailfish app.

olli ( 2014-01-07 21:28:19 +0200 )edit

I put requests for a few finnish banks if they are willing to provide Sailfish ported mobile banking apps, but haven't received any response yet.

TimTTK ( 2014-01-26 15:54:10 +0200 )edit

I found my banks mobile banking app from Aye! Will do for now.

olli ( 2014-06-27 22:20:57 +0200 )edit

Which apps do work on Sailfish X?

DiBasse ( 2018-05-21 15:14:19 +0200 )edit

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answered 2018-05-20 14:35:58 +0200

Direc gravatar image

updated 2018-05-20 14:36:11 +0200

There is a neat little app called Yalp Store (play backwards). I use it extensively, works great!

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And it's available from official Jolla store. It downloads the apk's directly from Play store without account.

BonoNL ( 2018-05-23 01:38:07 +0200 )edit

answered 2014-01-07 21:52:31 +0200

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The best solution is to ask (demand) the .apk's to be downloadable from the bank's own website, and/or post them to some alternative stores like Jolla's own, Yandex, Aptitude, ... Inform them that Google's services are not free, and that using Google services has privacy implications.

I guess you will grow tired pretty soon asking every business to provide alternative access to their apps. I'm using Real APK Leecher (Java based, cross platform. The jar runs fine on my Kubuntu desktop). It allows you to search and download APK's from Google Play Store on PC. After downloading an APK, I send it to Jolla by bluetooth, and install it. Works fine for most apps, without hacking on the Jolla. But do note that apps which use the (non-free!) google play services API will not run.

Caveat: you do need a Google account, you do need a Android Device ID, and you do need to link that device ID to your google account. For that, I simply downloaded the x86 version of Android, (this image to be exact), imported it in VirtualBox, and registered with my Google account. Get the device id (see XDA link before) and configure it in Real APK Leecher.

Google still knows the apps you've downloaded, but at least your Jolla remains google-free.

If you have no objections to Google, you can install the Play store on Jolla, with some hacking.

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Thanks! Downloading apps from RAL, sending via bluetooth and installing on Jolla works like a charm! For some reason apps installed this way seem to lack internet connection, tho. Or is it just me?

J24 ( 2014-01-19 02:52:17 +0200 )edit

answered 2014-08-21 17:40:18 +0200

ossi1967 gravatar image

I usually download such apps via

in case they're not available from one of the alternative stores. Helped me to obtain my mobile banking application as well. No Google account needed.

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Me to, works fine!

SaimenSays ( 2014-08-27 21:59:13 +0200 )edit

answered 2014-01-07 21:32:29 +0200

thwint gravatar image

Try the following link:

With this I was able to install Google Play and also install some apps.

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answered 2014-08-21 12:29:55 +0200

OL gravatar image

I've been investigating the situation in my country, Denmark. It seems that the group small cooperative banks cooperating in "andelsnet" banks run a system, that can be used on smartphones. For instance It's not as easy as mobilepay etc. but works.

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answered 2018-05-20 16:00:44 +0200

olf gravatar image

updated 2018-05-20 16:53:29 +0200

YALP Store (on F-Droid) and APKUpdater (original download) allow to download and install APKs from the Google Play Store directly on your device without a Google account or Google Play Services installed, while ApkTrack (on F-Droid) allows for querying Android apps on Google Play and other APK sources, but only installing from the other ones.

So if an Android app does not need the Google Play Services to be installed for running it, I can see no reason to install them.

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answered 2018-05-22 19:20:29 +0200

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In Germany we have a little bit better Situation, because the most German Banks support the HBCI-Protocol, which is not FOSS, but very well documented.

I use the Android Program Banking4A, which works with the most German banks and doesn't require GAPPS. It cost about 5,- EUR.

For all Banking Apps, which required GAPPS - i can recommend the microG.

This are the FOSS GAPPS Implementation, which fakes the real Google Services. The Installation on Sailfish Device is a bit tricky, but it works

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@ExPLIT, do you have a link at hand, which points to the "tricks" for installing microG under SailfishOS with AlienDalvik?

Edit: The [Xperia X] MicroG TJC thread seems to be Xperia X specific and microG on alien dalvik is old and its latest posts (2016) state "just install" (no "tricks"). Hence the question.

BTW, I stumbled over the issue you filed for Xposed yesterday, while trying to resolve what goes wrong when installing the Xposed framework: Have you ultimately managed to get it running?
Yesterday I just managed to get a single step further than what you documented: Everything seems to be installed properly (not 100% sure about XposedBridge.jar, yet), at least definitely the critical file app_process in /opt/alien/system/bin/, which must be copied as root. But the Xposed framework does not work after a reboot, hence the Xposed Installer permanently complains.
I also took a look at the manual installation (by dissecting the shell scripts emitted by the Installer for manual installation in android_storage/Android/data/de.robv.... and reading an outdated guide), which basically confirms, that everything seems to be installed correctly.
I have not yet tried this version as a last resort; it may be worth a try, as some of the security relevant changes in AOSP 4.4.4 might have been backported to AOSP 4.1.2 in 2016 / early 2017 (and then downstreamed into AlienDalvik).

Tested under SFOS on a Jolla 1 phone with Xposed Installer 2.6.1

olf ( 2018-05-23 23:26:19 +0200 )edit

answered 2018-05-20 15:22:23 +0200

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updated 2018-05-20 16:38:31 +0200

I downloaded and saved the .apk (Belgian bank) using yalp store, which is not allowed with Googleplay. Then I have to reinstall it every time I need it (the app 'forgets' it's already installed, probably because I have no Google account and no Google Service running).

Note: the bank denied to allow direct download from their site or from Googleplay, "FOR MY SECURITY" (sic).

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I'm testing with argenta and with Beobank, i have installed google play and services for xperia x

with this link text For Argenta it works directly, with beobank i have to clean the cache of the app and reboot android support sometimes so app find again my credentials ....(apk came from yalp store)

mvdm ( 2018-05-22 22:28:43 +0200 )edit

answered 2018-05-21 10:25:58 +0200

philter gravatar image

I use App from Intesa san paolo Bank from APTOIDE store: it is full working except for NFC functionality for "air payments";

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