asked 2015-11-24 00:48:15 +0200
IF (still have hope things will turn around! :)) Jolla has to completely shut down will the user accounts stay active? I imagine that storing the account info costs money which won't be there if the company shuts.
answered 2015-11-24 10:18:16 +0200
More interestingly as you all know when you reset your phone, or when you setup a new phone, you need to get access to the store to instal Alien Dalvik and a few other apps that are not available on Open Repos.
I'm sure quite a few people rely on the Android runtime to fill gaps where a native app is not available.
Having a look at the Sailfish OS ports to other hardware there is no Dalvik. I guess this is because Jolla have done a deal that maybe for each phone they sell they pay a licence fee to the relevant company.
Since Jolla wrote the other main apps that you may install they could make them open source but Dalvik is a potential problem.
I'm not sure but if you backup your phone does this include Dalvik and all currently installed apps ?
Hopefully this all turns out to be a bump in the road, but it's best to be prepared.
answered 2015-11-24 09:15:07 +0200
If I were Nokia I would be waiting for Jolla to go tits up. Then buy it for a song just like Microsoft did to Lumia. the timing is just too perfect it almost seems planned.
Why, oh why would Nokia buy Jolla? There's a tiny marginal market for SFOS (at least now) and they would have to pour money to the R&D, marketing, etc. They bought Alcatel (which is able to make mobile devices). If there's some nostalgia for MeeGo inside Nokia (which I doubt) then they might consider, but from a business point of view, it's not something Nokia is focused at the moment as a company. It's more or less a network company at the moment, with limited interest in consumer devices. But, who am I to tell what they will do. It would be good for Jolla (financially), but how long they would see and wait for growth is another issue.
raketti ( 2015-11-24 09:58:18 +0200 )editThe only real company making money in the mobile space really is Apple. Even Samsung's on one slide is being squeezed from the top end by Apple and the bottom end by countless cheap (no disrespect) Chinese handsets.
The world has changed, and this point might be controversial but Mr Ellop got the Nokia investors a pretty good deal and Nokia survives for now. Microsoft have struggled to make any real headway and so has Blackberry.
Jolla have done well to keep going, the OS is good but they started with old hardware (which runs well with the OS), but they really needed to offer a new handset by now.
I remember when they launched Sailfish and their staff came on stage showing all the hardware that had been "hacked" to boot and run Sailfish and I thought wow. But porting is done by the community is progress is being made, but slowly.
Samsung have shown that with Tizen in India that they can capture market share, with a cheap phone and the current deal with Intex is to go for that market. People probably want a phone that can access Facebook & whatsapp for the most and Sailfish can do that and do it well.
So to sum it up it's a rough sea Jolla is sailing.
Am ( 2015-11-24 10:37:40 +0200 )editAsked: 2015-11-24 00:48:15 +0200
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Just out of curiosity, what difference would it make? Besides, storing account information for a Jolla sized company should be quite affordable if you buy the service, which they probably have done all the way.
Okw ( 2015-11-24 01:20:49 +0200 )edit@Okw, correct me if I'm wrong but I think this would happen: No access to Store -> no updates for any apps - even community developed ones. Which means phone will become useless pretty quickly
kearnage ( 2015-11-24 01:27:05 +0200 )editIn the unlikely event they go completely belly up, then the Jolla account will most likely disappear, much like the Nokia account for N9.
BUT since Sailfish is built on top of Nemo, The Community will hopefully and most likely take over the underlying OS, much like the n900, Only we'll loose ActiveSync for MS mail and Android support, in the event you reset device to factory.
And the closed source Jolla files obviously won't get updated, until a community version is created to replace it.
Live in hope it's not all doom and gloom.
GD ( 2015-11-24 01:50:02 +0200 )edit@kearnage, Ah, yes. The store I never really found useful in any way due to lack of apps. That's probably what would happen if services were shutdown with a snap. However, I don't think that would be the case. Especially since Intex is apparently coming out with some SFOS device it's necessary to have the store service hosted somewhere.
Okw ( 2015-11-24 01:56:38 +0200 )edit