Camera settings divided into "Basic" and "Advanced"

asked 2014-01-09 14:29:37 +0200

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This idea is about dividing the camera app settings into two main sections: "Basic" and "Advanced" user mode. These modes could be switched to one and another depending on users own preference. These modes could be accessible for example via settings/applications/camera.

"Basic" option mode would be intended for "ordinary" users looking to get good pictures fast and easy without too much hazzle. Meanwhile "Advanced" option would provide much larger freedom to select and customize settings and menu layout accordingly to your own preferences. Select the settings what you like to use and only those will be viewed in camera app. If you are missing features, you could always add or remove features on your liking from settings.

When more features will be added, this splitting into "Basic and "Advanced" would simplify the layout and help use the camera app the way users want.

For that matter which features are enabled for basic users and advanced users could be decided for example by voting and selecting the popular features that are requested by users/devs. Feedback from Jolla devs could be also much appreciated whether they support and like the idea.

I will make two answer boxes below stated "Basic" and "Advanced" where one can propose feature suggestions or settings under each box using comments (wiki posts so no karma rewards).

All feature proposals released in this issue are purely intended to gather info on that which camera features are requested by users and whether it is preferred as "Basic" or "Advanced" feature.

If you have already made suggestions regarding camera features on my earlier posts you can move suggestions here to your favourite box as comments whether you regard this feature to be set in "Basic" or Advanced".

But as stated below if you want these features to have a better chance to get "official approval", make a separate issue for it and before doing so, make sure to check someone has not already made same feature suggestion to avoid unneccessary duplicates.

Update: There is a poll regarding the usability of camera where you can vote for that how the camera app could be improved in future (This "Basic" and "Advanced" option is also available for voting). Link to poll here: https://together.jolla.com/question/17057/poll-improving-camera-app-usability/

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True! Basic: Automatic scene modes, focus modes, metering modes, flash modes, burst modes, camera spirit level, effects

Advanced: Exposure compensation, ISO, focus modes, metering modes, flash modes, view grid & golden section, exposure bracketing, focus bracketing, burst modes (1, 3, infinite)

Macilaci457 ( 2014-01-10 08:36:15 +0200 )edit

A checkbox selection on what camera settings you want on the screen would be the best! You could hide what You do not need.

Macilaci457 ( 2014-01-10 08:37:49 +0200 )edit

I just did @TimTTK https://together.jolla.com/question/13641/feature-metering-modes-in-camera-app/

https://together.jolla.com/question/13639/feature-exposure-compensation-in-camera-app/

Macilaci457 ( 2014-01-11 16:48:17 +0200 )edit

I made a proposal concerning the splitting 'Basic' / 'Advanced' here https://together.jolla.com/question/1868/suggestion-simplify-photo-menu/#post-id-15592

corneliusg ( 2014-01-16 04:18:41 +0200 )edit

@Macilaci457, could you put your suggestions under correct answer boxes below so there would not be so much confusion and it would be easier to read these. @corneliusg suggestion noted, if you also have suggestions for camera features put them under "correct" boxes.

TimTTK ( 2014-01-16 11:21:35 +0200 )edit

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answered 2014-01-16 11:06:02 +0200

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updated 2014-01-17 00:16:23 +0200

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"Advanced" camera features

This is for "Advanced" camera features that is intended for people who want "full functionality" from camera and its features. Naturally all features that are presented on "Basic" mode will be also selectable on "Advanced". Feel free to suggest features here. Use comments to answer.

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EXPOSURE COMPENSATION @Macilaci457 https://together.jolla.com/question/13639/feature-exposure-compensation-in-camera-app/

corneliusg ( 2014-01-16 23:56:27 +0200 )edit

METERING MODES @Macilaci457 https://together.jolla.com/question/13641/feature-metering-modes-in-camera-app/

corneliusg ( 2014-01-17 00:03:06 +0200 )edit

RESOLUTION @Morphwiz https://together.jolla.com/question/1687/the-ability-to-use-frontsecondary-camera-at-2mpx-resolution/

corneliusg ( 2014-01-17 00:03:41 +0200 )edit

PANORAMA @TimTTK https://together.jolla.com/question/4091/panorama-pictures-for-camera-app/

TimTTK ( 2014-01-17 00:10:51 +0200 )edit

SERIAL SHOTS @TimTTK https://together.jolla.com/question/4284/take-serial-shots-with-camera-app/

TimTTK ( 2014-01-17 00:12:24 +0200 )edit

answered 2014-01-10 16:07:43 +0200

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updated 2014-01-17 01:03:08 +0200

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Whether one has an request regarding camera features, I think it is best to make a separate issue on single features regarding camera so more votes can be added towards the specific features that people like. If all features regarding camera are voted on one single issue, it will not propably get the attention it deserves as there are already so many questions on this site. Or if someone has a better idea, let's hear it.

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There is already quite nice collection of different camera features, but if something is missing make a separate issue of it and add link here to the preferred box. Please take note that the layout is only a proposal. @corneliusg thanks for the help :)

TimTTK ( 2014-01-17 01:01:07 +0200 )edit

answered 2014-01-16 11:00:26 +0200

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"Basic" camera features

What camera features would you like to see set as under "Basic" option? Remember this option is regarded for "ordinary" users that demand basic functions and easy usability. Use comments to give proposals.

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CAMERA TIMER @TimTTK https://together.jolla.com/question/4165/adjustable-camera-timer-for-camera-app/

TimTTK ( 2014-01-17 00:09:02 +0200 )edit

ZOOM @bijjal https://together.jolla.com/question/290/zoom-support-in-camera/

TimTTK ( 2014-01-17 00:46:21 +0200 )edit

answered 2014-01-17 03:24:02 +0200

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This is NOT an answer, but a proposal, I consider substantial enough to make it here.

Quote @Macilaci457 above: A checkbox selection on what camera settings you want on the screen would be the best! You could hide what You do not need.

I simply could not imagine, how this would look/work like. Not that I would not want that. Yesterday I thought about 'Suggestion: simplify photo menu' https://together.jolla.com/question/1868/suggestion-simplify-photo-menu/#15593 (updated today) and I proposed, what to me would seem a less confusing approach to photo menu options and at the same time would add features to the pulley menu that make it a more powerful tool - accessing the camera and camera settings.

Today we listed up the features for the split menu of the camera and by then, it became clear to me, that you really don't need any preselected menus at all, because the way the main settings app cam is designed, it is the perfect checkbox for individual choice of features you want in the cam menu. I see the camera menu like a folder, that holds all the features in the main settings, but shows only the ones, you chose to see by enabling them in main settings. With no features enabled the camera menu just shows a tip (like: CHOSE FEATURES FROM CAMERA SETTINGS). Basic functions would be enabled by factory settings and no one has to draw the line between basic and advanced.

@TimTTK thanks for keeping the focus on the matter. Feel free to copy/paste/delete this proposal and use or dismiss this input for a fully customizable camera menu.

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There are no right and wrong answers here, just preferences on that what suits users own style the best. Personally I find both of these ideas very interesting. But after all, both of them are just one way to deal with this.

TimTTK ( 2014-01-17 14:07:27 +0200 )edit

Perhaps an issue regarding which preference suits one better could work, but there must be also more ideas there so different solutions can be voted. After we're all in this together in this forum and trying to improve the usability of device.

TimTTK ( 2014-01-17 14:10:33 +0200 )edit

I'd like to suggest middle ground feature set, like the basic mode with a minimal collection controls available at first glance but the ability to explode a control or feature to get at advanced expressive and related, feature specific controls. Not quite as complicated as the advanced mode but as clean and simple as the basic mode.

dies_felices ( 2014-01-18 02:42:04 +0200 )edit

@corneliusg , @dies_felices , there is a poll issue to select which kind of solution would be best for organizing the camera app. I'd appreciate if you add your own proposals there to the option boxes. Link to poll here: https://together.jolla.com/question/17057/poll-improving-camera-app-usability/

TimTTK ( 2014-01-19 15:38:07 +0200 )edit

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