New reference phone for Jollas SailfishOS should be Fairphone2? [not relevant]
asked 2016-01-17 15:38:36 +0200
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Hello, i know there is a other similar question/idea ([https://together.jolla.com/question/116160/is-fairphone-2-the-new-jolla-phone/ "Is Fairphone 2 the new Jolla phone?"]).
But since Oct. 22th 2015 many things has changed, and so i will ask the question again with a list of new facts:
The community version of SailfishOS seems support the whole hardware items of the phone ( [https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Adaptations/libhybris: "see Adaptations/libhybris"]).
The phone is new and ready for delivery, and they delivere now([https://www.fairphone.com/ "see fairphone"]).
The phone has a long term hardware support.
The phone is self repairable.
The phone is [http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2015/10/fairphone-2-hands-on-modular-phones-are-finally-here/2/ "expanable"] (so may be a missing NFC could be added, or if someone needs a hardware keyboard ;-)).
The official technical support from Jolla could be established with in a few weeks. The main work is for the license agreement between Jolla and Fairphone. And Fairphone will help to get other OSs to there Phone [https://www.fairphone.com/2015/09/23/opening-up-fairphone-to-the-community-open-source-fairphone-2/ "Opening up Fairphone to the community: Open source Fairphone 2"].
The Jolla software company should have a reference phone (and it should not come from the Jolla software company - remembering the desaster with the tablet and the words from [https://blog.jolla.com/jolla-back-business/ "Antti Saarnio"] about hardware).
Fairphone is able to designe and produce good hardware, as they show with fairphone and fairphone 2 (delay for delivery of the fairphone 2 only two month ;-) and all orderd phones should be deliverd at least at february).
I see some other preferences e.g. puzzlephone and shiftphone, but many more work must be done to adapt the OS and support this phones.
And personal important for me, the phone is produced fair and i will pay about 500€ for that :-). I think the indian SailfishOS will be considerable cheaper for those that could/will not pay this fee.
Also important for me is the dual sim support (for privat and business usage).
I also think that if there is a problem with the license of the android support (or e.g. the offline here map support), Jolla could sell this software (and support) separately.
At the fairphone community i read many comments about rooting the delivered andorid on the new fairphone 2. So i think a lot of them will also try the SailfishOS on there phones (if the OS has an offical support). And the SailfishOS community will grow ;-).
Last but not least in the past nokia aera european commpanies show that they also could build significat and good phones (software and hardware).
Greetings
Edit at 2016-03-22:
The alpha1 version of the community port is available. See https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Adaptations/libhybris/Install_SailfishOS_for_fp2 and http://reviewjolla.blogspot.de/2016/03/guide-install-sailfish-os-on-fairphone-2.html. All license free native software form jolla and openrepos (warehouse) is installable and should be working (except software with hardware depending access). The more people testing SailfishOS on Fairphone2 the merrier ;-). I think response tell Jolla something about the priority ..
T-Mobile Austria is selling Fairphone 2 (http://www.t-mobile.at/fairphone/). So may be some more SailfishOS fans will buy one ;-).
Edit 2016-08-10: alpha2 is out now.
Edit 2016-08-23: 1&1 Germany is selling Fairphone 2 with contract. (https://together.jolla.com/question/142007/how-to-unlock-lte-bands-europe-on-intex-aqua-fish/)
Edit 2016-12-21: alpha3 is out now - Sailfish OS 2.0.5.6 (https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Adaptations/libhybris/Install_SailfishOS_for_fp2). Additional features: dual sim and and FM Audio support, Jolla
Edit 2017-07-19: a few days ago mal updated https://wiki.merproject.org/wiki/Adaptations/libhybris/Install_SailfishOS_for_fp2 for alpha4 And it works nearly perfect :-).
No matter how fair and ethical it is, I'm not going to spend 525€ on a phone.
Okw ( 2016-01-17 19:19:57 +0200 )edit@Okw: to be fair, it's not that much more than the original price of the Jolla phone (which was already extremely high).
nthn ( 2016-01-17 19:37:50 +0200 )edit@nthn: And as an afterthought after experiencing and living with all the problems SFOS/HW had especially in its first year, it wasn't really worth the 399€ I paid. No one knows what issues the Fairphone will have, and since it's also more or less an indie-movement you cannot really count 100% on it.
Okw ( 2016-01-17 19:57:20 +0200 )editIt is still an excellent opportunity to progress the use of Sailfish. The phone is a a long term investment with owner facilitated repair and upgrade so over time it will be very cost effective.
It is worth paying more to gain independence from Trojanware like IOS and Android.
richardski ( 2016-01-17 23:31:13 +0200 )editWhere is the actual download of the Fairphone2 port? I don't think the price is that high. The hardware is much better then the one of Jollaphone ever was. And paying 500 and more for a good Android phone is normal in these days.
Sailor ( 2016-01-18 11:29:55 +0200 )edit