Jolla C, the good the bad and the ugly

asked 2016-08-08 11:10:11 +0300

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updated 2016-08-09 11:12:56 +0300

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After3 weeks of Jolla C I will try to list some the issues and impressions I have had with it. (and even though this sounds slightly negative, I still enjoy using my Jolla C more than anything else so far, except the Jolla tablet which is just a joy to use, really excellent tablet)

  • form factor: It's just slightly too big for my hand size and Sailfish combo. On the other hand I have gotten more used to it with these 3 weeks. Jolla 1 could have been slighty bigger so maybe the perfect size for my hands would be something in between.

  • WLAN. it's worse than Jolla 1 at least when it matters and I can see differences. At work I hardly get any signal anymore, Jolla 1 was a lot better. Jolla C connects and disconnects constantly lighting up the screen every time (a bug) and I get only one bar max at my desk. Jolla 1 was comfortably 2-3 bars all the time.

  • BT, when connected to a car everything works as before, relatively quick connects etc. But for some reason when starting Nokia Here (wego) the bt volume drops to 1/3 of what it was. Even if Here did not make any audio output. i.e. if I just want to look at the map while driving I have to constantly adjust the volume from the phone to keep the music/podcast volume audible.

  • camera isn't that great, but maybe expected quality for a 75€ phone.

  • speaker is better than in Jolla 1, louder and fuller sound. Jolla 1 was tinnier sounding.

  • overall speed / usability is more or less the same, maybe the extra ram helps in some situations but I haven't had the need to push the phone to the limits so far. Still I think the browser could make better use of the extra ram, and 2 years more recent SOC would have given some noticeable speed boost.

  • USB and 3.5mm connectors seem to not be the best quality. Not all of my USB cables work anymore, they seem to be more loose than before or with Jolla 1. Also my headphones (also when connected to my bike intercom) seem to crackle a lot when the connectors move indicating the connector is more loose than before. Maybe there's some other explanation though.

  • overall feel of Jolla C is on par or slighly below of what Jolla 1 feels like. But it's more comfortable in the hand because of the shape of the back cover is more rounded. The feel is less solid though.

  • the screen is better especially in brighter environments. Jolla 1 was unusable in direct sunlight, Jolla C is better but still not perfect. Somewhat usable anyway. It being slighly sharper (or more pixels) doesn't really make that much of a difference. The screen felt worse for the touch in the beginning, but I've gotten used to the feel of it already.

In summary I could say that Jolla C wasn't as good as I expected it would be, some of the things can't even be fixed with sw which is a shame, but luckily the problems are not the most important aspects for me anyway. Hopefully the issues mentioned above can be fixed in future updates and the HW problems don't escalate too much from what they are now (connectors)

If I was to design a phone or next Jolla HW I would use these guidelines. - much improved camera (so I could get rid of my 2 808's) - reasonable audio quality (N9 and N900 have really good audio "path") - same level speakers is ok - 1080 5" amoled screen, tiny bevels (making it slightly smaller than Jolla C) and N9 style always on screen - good antennas/connectivity (2.4, 5GHz, N, AC, LTE) - 3GB ram (and make good use for it), qualcomm 6xx or faster, faster GPU

But yeah, it's not going to happen so maybe porting side of Sailfish community will allow me to have such a device sooner...

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I see you are an 808 user too. I would like a Nokia-quality phone with SailfishOS on it, but I think I will have to settle with replacing my current 808 with one of the new Nokias early 2017 and continue to carry two smartphones. About the quality, it's a dirt cheap phone. I expected much worse. I like it more than Jolla 1 for everything except the lack of the magnetometer. Jolla 1 was not usable anymore for me due to RAM constraints. Often it terminated the only app open.

Giacomo Di Giacomo ( 2016-08-08 11:38:51 +0300 )edit

I guess there is a phone for you with all features you mentioned, the Turing phone will cover most of the required features at a higher price of course.

pmelas ( 2016-08-08 16:19:08 +0300 )edit

I would add the lack of gyro and compass sensors, no damage resistant glass, an adequate camera lens.

pmelas ( 2016-08-08 16:21:46 +0300 )edit

I'm impressed. some 808 users are here ;) for the rest... I prefer the JC to J1. only the LTE bug has to be fixed. otherwise the JC is useless for me. btw. the Jolla Tablet has a Nokia like quality for me. and to be honest, the other half was nice but not must have for me and the battery doesn't need to be replaceable. a Phone in the JT look and feel would be great. my opinion

Dreej ( 2016-08-08 16:49:54 +0300 )edit

@pmelas The Turing phone does not support SD card nor USB connection, and since I saved data from my N8 that fell in the toilet only because they were on the SD card, I swore that I will never buy a phone that does not support SD card. The Turing phone is the perfect means to lose your data forever in case it fails.

Giacomo Di Giacomo ( 2016-08-08 19:33:36 +0300 )edit