A maintainer for Webpirate?

asked 2017-12-03 21:54:18 +0200

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updated 2017-12-03 21:56:31 +0200

Diversity is a good thing. I have already suggested improvements to the Sailfish browser (and sparked the idea to port Firefox to Sailfish OS in the process) so now it is time for the next step, I guess.

Webpirate should also be developed further.

Both the stock browser and Firefox (if ported) uses the same rendering engine. Having an alternative isn't just a good thing to do, it is a necessity. Thus there needs to be a browser that uses some other rendering engine, like Webpirate, that uses Webkit.

I like webpirate. It allows me to navigate web pages (back and forward) by swiping, something I also suggested for the default browser. but...

Posted by @Dax on OpenRepos.net:

I'm not interested to develop/create apps for Sailfish anymore.

So what happens next with Webpirate?

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Dies probably. Browsers ain't a one person job. Even the official SFOS browser kind of sucks. If we get firefox with the latest improvements we don't need anything else. It will be a huge step forward for SFOS.

ApB ( 2017-12-03 22:13:31 +0200 )edit

It will be a step forward for Sailfish OS but not a sustainable future. My suggestion is that an organisation takes on the project. ...why not one of the consortiums around the world? An ecosystem needs more than one leg to stand on.

vattuvarg ( 2017-12-03 22:27:42 +0200 )edit

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Webcat is also WebKit based, maintained and a viable alternative. Actually its author also maintains a much newer WebKit release for SailfishOS. Unfortunately Webcat does not use swiping gestures, which was a really nice feature of WebPirate.

olf ( 2017-12-03 22:30:58 +0200 )edit

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Could the two projects merge?

vattuvarg ( 2017-12-03 22:37:18 +0200 )edit

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Technically merging does not make much sense, as Webcat and WebPirate have different code bases (except for both using WebKit). Fixing WebPirate to run properly under recent SailfishOS releases is supposedly much easier.

But hey, just do it ... or leave it. ;)
I.e., suggesting work nobody will do IMO does not make much sense.

olf ( 2017-12-03 23:22:05 +0200 )edit

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answered 2019-11-20 12:29:59 +0200

Bobsikus

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I am trying :) Unfortunately newer webkit or webengine would be the most helpful thing and that is up to Jolla :/

https://openrepos.net/content/bobsikus/webpiratetest

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thank you very much for your work

dirksche ( 2019-11-20 13:04:52 +0200 )edit

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Webcat is using (or better: recommending to use) a newer version of QtWebkit, namely version 5.212. The author even made the corresponding packages available on OpenRepos (see here - but that means you are in uncharted waters, as you replace system parts. Also, you must revert that change before the next Sailfish update, so maybe this is only for the more technically inclined.

dyraig ( 2019-11-20 15:56:33 +0200 )edit

dyraig: yes, I know about that, but exactly like you are saying, it would need to override few things and it makes it uncomfortable to think about it. If only jolla devs took this package and implement it, it would be great..

Bobsikus ( 2019-11-20 16:11:19 +0200 )edit

@Bobsikus, probably never will, as @leszek already tried asking nicely twice: In 2018 this was answered with a "we will look at it" by Jolla (publicly in an IRC based mer-meeting), but obviously they never came back to this topic; in 2019 he received a blunt "No", IIRC.

But as WebPirate runs nicely with @leszek's QtWebkit 5.212-dev (a lot better than with the original one), hence I see no reason, why your fork should not (still you may test against it).

olf ( 2019-11-20 20:07:36 +0200 )edit

Very happy. :)

vattuvarg ( 2019-11-20 23:37:11 +0200 )edit

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answered 2017-12-04 18:39:09 +0200

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Yeah we need great native browser for sailfish, not pitiful android browser! No firefox it's under control by America it can't be trusted or then sailfish isn' t surveilance free anymore.

I don't get it why people like firefox so much, there is many other good browsers like Opera and beyond.

Popular/mainstream rarely means best compromise, people simple not know better that's general sentence for anything...

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You do know that Firefox is open source, I presume? And that the current SailfishOS browser uses the same render engine? And that Opera uses the Blink engine, which is also open source, but developed and maintained in principal by Google?

Fuzzillogic ( 2017-12-04 18:56:40 +0200 )edit

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Sailfish is not surveillance free. If you want to be free of surveillance, you have to get rid of any phone, especially smart phones.

h.berd ( 2017-12-05 01:23:29 +0200 )edit

Sailfish could be surveilance free if it's skilled hands. Open source or not it's still developed by United states and thats sucks. Opera is only one suggestion, but not anymore didn't know that google owns opera nowdays..

We need to be independent from google and whole Usa country then we can be happy. that's it.

Jk ( 2017-12-05 13:42:49 +0200 )edit

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Please stop writing nonsense Jk. Firefox is not developed by a country, but by developers all over the world.

And Google does not own Opera. Opera used chromium rendering engine(that is not a browser, but a rendering engine), just like a lot of other browsers like Vivaldi. By the way Opera is owned by Chinese investors nowadays.

yomark ( 2017-12-05 18:07:11 +0200 )edit

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