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Xperia X: Possible speaker destruction by system tone volume?

asked 2017-12-18 21:32:59 +0200

Robomike gravatar image

Working sometimes in loud environments and also having a good sleep, I usually set ringtones and alarmtones (mp3) to maximum loudness. Today I noticed that the bottom stereo speaker (Sailfish says "right speaker" in CSD tool) now makes just crackling noises - like an overstressed speaker in home or car entertainment systems, when you once have forced too much power to it.

So, as some people here discussed the extraordinary volume level of the sailfish system tones, my question: is it possible to kill the Xperia X speaker just by not decreasing the volume below maximum?

Anyway, unlocked phone -> no warranty -> have to replace it by myself. Any useful hints and or warnings? Or should I just litter the whole crap... that's what I would preferably do....

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You do have warranty. If your device is less than 6 months old, it's even up to the seller to prove the defect is your fault - installing third party software does not void warranty. Compare computers, on which you have installed another operating system. You'd of course loose warranty on the OS, and there will be no guarantee the new OS works on your computer, but broken hardware should still be covered. (IANAL, but it's European law.)

Fuzzillogic ( 2017-12-18 23:01:39 +0200 )edit
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If the hardware is properly designed, it should be impossible to break the speaker in any way. Of course, the hardware might not be properly designed (e. g. commercial replaced the speaker designed by the engineers with a cheaper one with lower power rating to save some cents).

Giacomo Di Giacomo ( 2017-12-19 01:51:48 +0200 )edit

Only a hypothesis, but maybe there is an equalizer in android to limit low frequencies on high power output. So Sailfish can kill the speaker and you will have also a warrenty problem when sony get notice of this. By the way this limiter is used in many low cost audio systems nowadays.

SaimenSays ( 2017-12-19 20:13:58 +0200 )edit

Just noticed something similar. Usually I do not set system tones to max loudness. This time I did. And I was having sms conversation, sms app was open. The incoming sms sound (which is default and is rather short and gentle beep, as app is open) seemed to break the loudspeaker. The sound seemed uneven and crackling. I am not an audiophile and expert of sound technique, but as I understood, the incoming to loudspeaker signal was beyond the physical loudspeaker limits. Xperia X with Sailfish X.

Also, checked loudspeakers with CSD tool. Stereo speaker test sound seem too loud for the loudspeaker capacity. Both speakers work, but the voice telling “left speaker right speaker...“ seems too much amplified, as we usually hear some cracklings in loudspeakers, when the volume is too loud for them. The phone system sound volume is 60%, but I guess CSD sound test volume is independent from normal phone sound volume.

Ta_das ( 2017-12-21 17:17:07 +0200 )edit

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answered 2017-12-19 22:57:16 +0200

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updated 2017-12-19 22:59:04 +0200

You can hardly break a speaker like that, rather you can damage the amplifier that is feeding the speaker, if you supply too much power to the inputs of that amplifier. I am not sure if an mp3 file can cause such damage as usually there is a built in protection to the amplifier (or at least there should be).

I am also not sure how warranty works when bootloader is unlocked. I think it is possible to install the original image and ship the phone for maintenance. But still those warnings when you subscribe for unlocking code ... I would go through that document once again.

Avoid telling the company that would handle the warranty case or Sony anything if not explicitly asked. Just describe the problem and let them fix it without explaining how (in your opinion) it happened.

regards

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Thanks to all for your evaluations.

Well, the warranty... of course you (Fuzzillogic etc.) are right. For me it's more theoretical, anyway. I would never ship my phone to anyone without wiping all the data. So, moving to another phone, wiping, shipping, then later all vice versa... nope. It's less work to open that thing.

Robomike ( 2017-12-20 21:20:06 +0200 )edit

What do you mean by open - the parts are soldiered or part of the chip. I have not looked for information on the Sony X, but I would be surprised if you can do something meaningful with opening the device.

Make backup, wipe the data and let repair under warranty. When its back install Sailfish and restore backup.

regards

deloptes ( 2017-12-20 22:56:43 +0200 )edit
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Nah, it was not too hard, take a look: Picture Replaced it already, it's now working again. Maybe I'll make a howto if there's the time.

Robomike ( 2017-12-22 00:09:47 +0200 )edit

Respect - the removed part is what - speaker or sound module?

deloptes ( 2017-12-22 09:52:59 +0200 )edit
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Speaker with it's enclosure, the speaker itself can now be changed. -

I decided to share the whole story on this page.

Robomike ( 2017-12-22 14:54:15 +0200 )edit
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