App volume level for notification sounds

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App volume level for notification sounds

asked 2013-12-25 22:28:18 +0200

pazix
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updated 2014-01-30 11:11:19 +0200

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Now notification sounds are played different sound level than apps, media player for example. It is not nice to get full volume level email alarm especially when you are using ear plugs.

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It would be helpful for 3rd party devs if there was some global volume label available. Then you could do e.g.

SoundEffect {
    id: alarm;
    volume: System.volume;
    source: Qt.resolvedUrl('../../sounds/harbour-kitchentimer.wav');
}

Tanghus ( 2013-12-26 00:02:56 +0200 )edit

I think the main problem is that volume of ring tone is not lowered when headphones are plugged in. Other sounds are automatically lowered, but not notifications which blows my ear off.

Nux ( 2014-05-17 00:31:40 +0200 )edit

"notification different sound level than apps" is RIGHT. Notification volume must follow ring volume. No way to follow apps volume. This protect to miss notifications via near-mute app volume.

For this case will be good to have possibility set two ring volume: one for loud-speaker and second for headphones connected.

For example - in noisy environment I want to have full ring volume. But this is does not apply if I use headphones! :)

Kaacz ( 2014-07-18 13:55:15 +0200 )edit

IMO it would be nice if there would be more control for the notification sounds. For example, usually I want to hear a notification sound when email arrives. But if I'm listening to music and have ear plugs connected then I don't want an email (and probably SMS neither) notification sound at all (more so because the music is muted for the duration of that notification sound currently). What kind of controls the user should have for this and what should be specified by the system...I don't know :)

Aki Koskinen ( 2015-04-07 22:10:46 +0200 )edit

It would be helpful for 3rd party devs if there was some global volume label available. Then you could do e.g.
SoundEffect { id: alarm; volume: System.volume; source: Qt.resolvedUrl('../../sounds/harbour-kitchentimer.wav'); }
Tanghus ( 2013-12-26 00:02:56 +0200 )edit
I think the main problem is that volume of ring tone is not lowered when headphones are plugged in. Other sounds are automatically lowered, but not notifications which blows my ear off.
Nux ( 2014-05-17 00:31:40 +0200 )edit
"notification different sound level than apps" is RIGHT. Notification volume must follow ring volume. No way to follow apps volume. This protect to miss notifications via near-mute app volume.
For this case will be good to have possibility set two ring volume: one for loud-speaker and second for headphones connected.
For example - in noisy environment I want to have full ring volume. But this is does not apply if I use headphones! :)
Kaacz ( 2014-07-18 13:55:15 +0200 )edit
IMO it would be nice if there would be more control for the notification sounds. For example, usually I want to hear a notification sound when email arrives. But if I'm listening to music and have ear plugs connected then I don't want an email (and probably SMS neither) notification sound at all (more so because the music is muted for the duration of that notification sound currently). What kind of controls the user should have for this and what should be specified by the system...I don't know :)
Aki Koskinen ( 2015-04-07 22:10:46 +0200 )edit

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answered 2013-12-30 19:02:19 +0200

JuhaP
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Seriously, this must be addressed. I have to keep notification volume turned to max to be able to hear it in daily use. Now, when I plug in the earphones and go for a walk, the first email, message or incoming call blows my ears off. Someone may call a lawyer some day. We don't want to damage anyone's ears, do we? How about an earphone ambiance?

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I had the same experience and i think this is very serious bug and should be fixed with highest priority.

cropas ( 2014-01-07 13:25:20 +0200 )edit

Agree, but I'm with Kaacz as well, the sounds must be separated. Instead the volume can change when you plug you earphones, just like it does with media. Perhaps they can be joined in level when using earphones but separated when not?

Mohjive ( 2014-01-07 13:38:37 +0200 )edit

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Me too, email notification sounds on head phones is too loud. Also for me it produces even louder clicks/pops when they end: https://together.jolla.com/question/11498/loud-click-on-headphones-during-audiovideo-playback/

mcfrisk ( 2014-01-07 13:50:07 +0200 )edit

That notifications must use a different volume level than apps, I fully agree with. It wouldn't make sense to let notifications/ringtones respond to application volume settings. But, the optimal solution to this problem is to save notifications settings for headphone usage exclusively and separately! It's a relatively simple solution, yet powerful, and should please (almost!) all users. Whether this is through an ambiance, settings in every ambiance or something else doesn't really matter.

GuSec ( 2014-02-06 17:16:43 +0200 )edit

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answered 2013-12-26 01:51:17 +0200

Kaacz

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updated 2014-07-18 13:56:53 +0200

Notification sounds MUST use different volume level than Apps ! Notification sounds must follow RINGTONE volume level.

Different volume levels for phone sounds and apps is not bug. This is feature. Very good feature. We don't want dumb "only one volume level for all" from dumb Lumias (near-mute app volume => near-mute ringtone and notif). :)

In N9 and Jolla is used Pulse engine. Each native application can have its own volume. Each sound output has its own volume. And rightly so.

Simply you set wanted ring volume, notifications must follow this level. If not, we have a bug... :)

For this case will be good to have possibility set two ring volume: one for loud-speaker and second for headphones connected.

For example - in noisy environment I want to have full ring volume. But this is does not apply if I use headphones! :)

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Harbour apps have been rejected because they didn't respond to volume buttons, yet there doesn't seem to be a way to do that in QML, or at least I haven't found it.

Tanghus ( 2013-12-26 02:23:29 +0200 )edit

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I think normal use and using ear plugs are different use cases.

In normal use notifications can play more loudly, for example phone can be far away. When you are using ear plugs is not nice to have very loud incoming call or email notification. You can do something and answering to phone can be difficult and slow. Incoming call blow you brains and ears:).

UI interface warns when you plug ear plugs and asks tune up volume level suitable to you. It is not logical from user perspective if notifications are not tuned up also. OR UI themes have to have option for ear plug volume level, which is used by notifications.

pazix ( 2013-12-26 13:15:35 +0200 )edit

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But still apps volume and ring/notif volume must be separated. Only in case use headphones - ring/notif volume may be related to app volume. In case headphones plug out, no way to put ring/notif volume lower related by apps volume. No way. For this is ring volume setting.

Kaacz ( 2013-12-26 21:15:10 +0200 )edit

And it woud be nice to be posible to inactivate only some sounds, not all of them

estatarde ( 2014-01-30 18:21:57 +0200 )edit

@Kaacz You're right in that those volumes should be separated, BUT they should be automatically lowered when headphones are connected. Or simply volume sent through jack/bluetooth should be separated from volume sent through speakers. Maybe just a simple multiplier would do.

Nux ( 2014-07-18 20:03:10 +0200 )edit

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