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Why do you use jolla phone and not something else? [not relevant]

asked 2015-06-01 17:51:02 +0300

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I've just bought Jolla phone and I have had no chance to form my own Jolla user experience. I want help of community with it.

So my question is following. What is so unique in Jolla Phone (and in your day-to-day Jolla experience) that you are ready to tolerate day by day:

  • Outdated hardware
  • Immature (and sometimes buggy) basic software like browser, sms manager, mail client and etc.
  • Pretty average battery life for smartphone
  • Lack of native apps and therefore native experience
  • Lack of open-source components with accompanying troubles like absence of downloadable firmware images and etc
  • Lack of great features like Swype Keyboard and others
  • etc...

There is an essential list above. And I want to know what is achievable on Jolla Phone and isn't in any other phone so you stay with Jolla? Why exactly are you using Jolla instead of using some Android smartphone (for example some smartphone or firmware with improved privacy and secure) If you are so heavily using android apps? What will you miss in case of using Android/iOS phone?

From your answers I want to create my own style of using Jolla and I want to truly love this smartphone.

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Freedom of choice, the only commercial account needed is Jolla's and that only if you want to upgrade the device software, does not come pre-filled with chunk (android feels like a handheld marketplace in the first second), liberty to live google, apple free. Even with the changes in 2.0 I guess it is the most sophisticated UI I have seen on touch devices so far. If you are only having a smartphone to be cool and have all social apps there can be, Jolla is probably not for you yet.

chemist ( 2015-06-01 17:59:54 +0300 )edit

@chemist, there are some google free version of Android like Replicant (they tell it is 100% Free Software). And as I know jolla phone firmware isn't 100% Free Software.

I'm not trying to offence anyone. I'm trying to find the seeds of true.

petRUShka ( 2015-06-01 18:07:21 +0300 )edit
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From my android and iOS experiences I can only say that as long as I am not forced to use either one of them I won't - I will get rid of my android tablet as soon as I can (counting the days) as not even the most non-googleized android is still just android... I am not all about 100% free or open software as I know that one has to make a living, and to enlighten you about SFOS, most core OS parts are open-source (Mer).

chemist ( 2015-06-01 18:26:00 +0300 )edit
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@petRUShka - Why did you buy a Jolla?

Edz ( 2015-06-01 18:44:26 +0300 )edit
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@Markkyboy, I did buy Jolla for several reasons. I had nokia n810 tablet and saw n900 phone. I hoped that Jolla Phone is a mature n900 (it actually isn't). Also I'm using linux at my home pc and want to have same freedom on my phone. Also I'm fan of Open Source and of privacy and security. And at least I just wanted to try something new. My previous android phone was quite ok. And I see that in many ways Jolla is loosing to Android. And it is ok for now. But I believe that there is a reason (killer feature or set of them) why people use jolla and I want to find it.

petRUShka ( 2015-06-01 18:57:08 +0300 )edit

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answered 2015-06-02 18:47:20 +0300

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First, what i want for my life is that i could have my conditions depending as less as possible from any extern thing/person/part as my own person.
That means that a phone is just a part that could make my life better, but if it could not do it, then there is an other part present to fulfil my need. Could then an other organisation.
I would never make a specific device so important, that i can't live without it.
Other similar device should do it.
For me a phone, should just give/take a call and sms. To communicate with other people particularly if it's important (job/life emergency). The rest is nice to have. Could be better for better comfort. But Comfort is currently more or less strongly bound to lazyness.
If phone could not serve for an x-comfort, then i provide it from an other part. The organisation will be construct around it. The biggest effort is to setup this organisation. then the rest comes from alone. On any case the person (I) should make his update on it.

For me has the jolla phone a lots of lack regarding other systems. but my organisation is adapted on it. And from time to time comes more functionalities. And i will use it, and adapt my organisation. The jolla phone make his ground functionalities well, with phone, sms, timers, event calendars(could much more better).
Os Is something else than by the big systems (ios,android windows).
Stupid hacker have less interests on malware on it.
Is from design different.
Hasn't the american patriot act behind.
And seems to have more moding possibilities as the current devices of the market (google ara is still not present).
Communication between jolla and user is really reactive for a small startup.
jolla leaders make the product more transparent in my eyes. Want it transparent ,and coworker strive themselves as far as possible for it.
And community is really reactive too.

That are the points that make jolla products as good product for me.
And the product is not just a device and a software, but all around it, what is it about communicated, to make it better for all.

Have a good sail!!!

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answered 2015-11-01 12:19:03 +0300

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I don't want to pay for apps with my data I like the sailfishos ui I like the concept of open source

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answered 2015-06-02 11:51:50 +0300

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I use a Jolla as although it has shortcomings, I prefer it to the way that an iphone or android phone works. I don't need (but would like sometimes) the features they come with, but I'd prefer something which is working how I want it to rather than a mobile operator (see recent EE UK SMS addition, messaging team in the US: El Reg).

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answered 2015-06-10 09:13:58 +0300

updated 2015-06-10 09:14:36 +0300

The decision to get a Jolla phone happened immediately when I heard of the TOHKBD hardware keyboard kickstarter project. The phone ticked all other boxes already, but a missing hardware keyboard was a showstopper for me.

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Did you buy the TOHKBD? I'd love to but I'm still not sure about the build quality. How are your experiences with it? what are your problems, if you have any?

PatsJolla ( 2015-06-10 14:16:20 +0300 )edit

Yes, within hours of hearing about it :) I don't have it yet - the product is currently in the last stage of manufacturing so it should arrive any day now.

xkr47 ( 2015-06-11 14:40:35 +0300 )edit

The first units have already reached their owners, experiences can be seen starting from this post: http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?p=1473133#post1473133

xkr47 ( 2015-06-11 14:45:21 +0300 )edit

Ok, can you keep us updated? maybe with a new thread, I think this is one of the killer-applications for the Jolla Phone a real advantage compared to other smartphones if it works good.

PatsJolla ( 2015-06-11 14:49:09 +0300 )edit

I've got my TOHKBD for a bit over a month now. Best thing since N900!
+ keyboard attaches (and stays attached) very nicely to phone with its magnets
+ keyboard feels like a real keyboard, reminds me of N900
+ decent set of "special characters"
+ terminal feels like a terminal now :) as in "ok I'll just use the terminal to ...." instead of "bah, now I need to use the terminal to ..."
+ works well with all apps tested so far and enables "undo" functionality in edit fields
+ keyboard sticks solidly to the metal frame of shopping carts so I can read my shopping list hands free
- keyboard in front of camera when not in use
- risk that magnets erase the magnetic strips of credit cards if placed in same pocket

xkr47 ( 2015-09-15 15:42:59 +0300 )edit
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answered 2015-08-03 14:37:07 +0300

Mced gravatar image

updated 2015-08-03 14:40:56 +0300

  1. Standard Linux distro, not a Linux kernel running an stupid Java interpreter (Android) or closed OS with fewer options for geeks (iOS, WPhone, BlackberryOS...). All compiled apps. I can work with Sailfish the same way as with my Debian or OpenWRT devices.

  2. A physical landscape keyboard: TOHKBD2. Under normal circumstances, I would hate on-screen keyboards. Coming from the N900, I hate them even more. It's like switching from a mechanical Cherry to a Sinclair ZX80/81 flat keyboard, but even smaller.

And that's it.

A. Don't care about outdated hardware. "Outdated" is a concept than only exists inside our minds. Ten years ago, a Nokia N95 was an outstanding terminal. Now is crap. Do you think yourself or the world have changed so much?

Anyway, Sailfish eats a lot of RAM, much more than Maemo or an up-to-date Debian + LXDE. I find it hardly understandable. If it was optimized, 1 GB would be more than enough.

B. Yet to find any sign of inmaturity o buggy behaviour. Of course, there are bugs, like on every other OS (even Debian stable).

C. Don't care about battery life. Always close to a charger.

D. Don't miss any app, even when Alien Dalvik is not installed.

E. Don't care about "Swipe" when having a physical keyboard.

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answered 2015-08-03 16:29:06 +0300

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updated 2015-08-03 16:32:07 +0300

Outdated HW is not a bad thing. It all depends on how good programmed is the SW that runs over it. AFAIK Apple has always had worse HW-Specs than most Android Top-Phones, and it runs much smoother than them.

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answered 2015-11-02 22:24:45 +0300

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Just to add my two cents:

  1. Outdated hardware: Well, this depends on the tasks you want to run on a smartphone. I'm using my jolla now for about three months and it is simply running, no hangs, no crashes. All apps I'm using (not being a 24/7 connected power-user) react fluidly. There seems to be enough space, RAM, CPU and display resolution. OK, some might argue about the camera, but for a phone it is OK; I use a digicam for high quality photos.
  2. Immature (and sometimes buggy) basic software like browser, sms manager, mail client and etc.: Is this really the case? I disagree.
  3. Pretty average battery life for smartphone: Currently I plug the phone every two days in for charging, but in this two days battery goes down from 80% to 60% – using wifi, gps or sms not all the time.
  4. Lack of native apps and therefore native experience: There are a lot of native apps. But maybe I didn't get the point.
  5. Lack of open-source components with accompanying troubles like absence of downloadable firmware images and etc: Could you please explain this question because I'm really new to smartphones and don't know which problem you address. Thanks!
  6. Lack of great features like Swype Keyboard and others: I find the Jolla keyboard very good and it learns new words or combinations very fast.
  7. etc…: Most difficulties I had so far could be solved here. In addition, as Linux user for more than a decade, I love the Jolla phone, because it is so easy to ssh and work on it. The UI and gestures are really intuitively, I learned it within minutes. And it is an open Linux, no (semi-) closed party like Android or iOS.
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answered 2015-11-02 23:57:29 +0300

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updated 2015-11-02 23:59:55 +0300

I am an old linux user sibce mid ninties. Couldnt resist the temptation

1.The best user interface in my experience.

  1. Actuallt a better 'tekeohone' than eg Android or Ios. Ivw never made a calk by musrake. That has hapoened wirh other telephones.

  2. Some of the apos are realky great eg ytplayer. Ebookreader. You can program in the phone. Great maps wvuch will work offline.

  3. Based upon C++ which makes it a very fast device even with current specs.

  4. Android apps if there is sonething missing.

  5. Hw ok for me.

  6. Wifi is actually better than on my ipad mini !

Really like this jolla.

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answered 2015-11-03 10:18:01 +0300

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Non-Google phone supporting Android apps, SSH, I can decide what's open, running, gestures, update once a week, lightweight negative apps,...

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answered 2015-11-03 13:35:51 +0300

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Outdated hardware

Not a big deal for me. Maybe i will switch to a fairphone and slap SFOS on it if i ever felt my jolla to become sluggish or inadequate. I had it since march last year and am still satisfied with the hardware.

Immature (and sometimes buggy) basic software like browser, sms manager, mail client and etc.

So far I never encountered bugs in the apps you mentioned. Define immature :D

Pretty average battery life for smartphone

It's better than my last android device, which is good enough for me.

Lack of native apps and therefore native experience

I'm pretty satisfied with the ones that are there. ^^

Lack of open-source components with accompanying troubles like absence of downloadable firmware images and etc

I have no idea what you are talking about.

Lack of great features like Swype Keyboard and others

I never liked Swype, though I quite liked MessagEase, but that is probably patented and wont ever be ported on sfos i guess (just like swype). However, I'll live. :D

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