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Slightly worried on the new bugs

asked 2015-09-11 22:30:02 +0300

simo gravatar image

updated 2015-09-12 13:45:19 +0300

edit: Rephrased my question and added some statistics for clearance

My question is: Is this quote still valid?

"Early access releases should be considered "stable". Issues found during that period will either be fixed, or added to "known issues" on the release notes"

(Source: official announcement)

To make it clear why I wanted to ask this: I noticed that on 1.1.7 Early Access, only one issue was added to the Known Issues on the release notes, out of several bugs reported, few of them having also some importance. Adding here also some statistics of bug report activity, taken on September 12th 2015.

+-----------+---------+--------+----------+------+---------+------------+------------+
| Version   | Reports | Closed | Answered | Open | Tracked | In release | Known Iss. |
+-----------+---------+--------+----------+------+---------+------------+------------+
| 1.1.9.x   | 36      | 1      | 4        | 31   | 0       | 0          | 0          |
+-----------+---------+--------+----------+------+---------+------------+------------+
| 1.1.7.x   | 86      | 2      | 27       | 57   | 5       | 3          | 1          |
+-----------+---------+--------+----------+------+---------+------------+------------+
| 1.1.6.x   | 75      | 2      | 21       | 52   | 3       | 1          | 0          |
+-----------+---------+--------+----------+------+---------+------------+------------+
| 1.1.4.x   | 86      | 5      | 20       | 61   | 4       | 2          | 1          |
+-----------+---------+--------+----------+------+---------+------------+------------+
| 1.1.2.x   | 46      | 1      | 10       | 35   | 4       | 0          | 3          |
+-----------+---------+--------+----------+------+---------+------------+------------+
| SUM (EA)  | 329     | 11     | 82       | 236  | 16      | 6          | 5          |
+-----------+---------+--------+----------+------+---------+------------+------------+
| No v-tag  | 2608    | 302    | 743      | 1563 | 25      | 5          | -          |
+-----------+---------+--------+----------+------+---------+------------+------------+
| SUM (all) | 2937    | 313    | 825      | 1799 | 41      | 11         | -          |
+-----------+---------+--------+----------+------+---------+------------+------------+

Notes on the table:

  • 4th column "Answered" includes questions with one answer suggested as correct, but not necessarily accepted as correct. Many of these could be added to the "Open" column values, now left off from there
  • Last column: "Known Iss." should be read as "Added to Known Issues on the release notes"
  • 2nd last row: "no v-tag" should be read as "bug reports posted without version number tag". Version number tag is, in general, used with Early Access reports, but it's not reserved for them.
  • Part of the questions calculated might include more than one version tag, so the values are not exact

1.1.9.28 Early Access: bugs reported so far

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There have been bugs in the stable versions since 2013 that still haven't been fixed, I don't see why every single new bug in early access releases would be more important to fix, unless it's something that really breaks the device. New software releases always bring more bugs, even when the only purpose of the update was to fix bugs.

nthn ( 2015-09-11 22:42:43 +0300 )edit
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I think you left out one important thing. There are bugs that on a normal bug tracker are flagged with "Won't fix" or "Invalid"

Taking a look at the bug list for 1.1.9.28 the most I see there are things that I as developer would flag with "Whishes" or "Needs more info" or "Won't fix" issues.

I think the developers are aware of all entries marked as bugs and are trying to reproduce or fixing them. I am pretty sure they are working heavily on bringing the best experience for all users especially the ones that preordered the tablet.

leszek ( 2015-09-11 22:56:28 +0300 )edit
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1.1.9 has finished its cycle, that's it. You can't expect non-urgent issues (i.e. those that don't broke essential functionality) to be fixed in time of the public release.

Releasing another release candidate at this stage means that another round of testing needs to be done, both internally and by EA users.

g7 ( 2015-09-11 23:07:43 +0300 )edit

@leszek@g7 Please don't get me wrong :) Sure there are bugs of none / less importance, my questions is not about them. But those having some importance are expected to be either fixed or listed on the known issues. As this didn't seem to happen on 1.1.7, I'm just worried, and so asking if the quote is still valid. As simple as that.

simo ( 2015-09-11 23:17:40 +0300 )edit
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@simo ok, understood :)

But still, I fail to see any really important bugs in the list you linked. "Known Issues" should contain only important bugs that for a reason or another are not fixed in the release. Otherwise the release notes would be a mess :)

g7 ( 2015-09-11 23:42:28 +0300 )edit

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answered 2015-09-11 22:56:48 +0300

tigeli gravatar image

How many EA releases there were on 1.1.7.x? Can't recall myself and too lazy to check it out.. but there would not have been any if we would not have fixed any of the problems reported by the EA-users.

With 1.1.9.x it just might be that we have not had time to go through the reported bugs.. but we certainly are not ignoring them.

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Thanks for a quick response - I do believe none are ignored, but my question is just about if the quote is still valid. Just as an example, here's one I think should have made it to the Known issues list on 1.1.7: https://together.jolla.com/question/98984/bug-unable-to-place-a-call-straight-after-latest-one/

To your question: There was 1.1.7.24, 25, 27 & 28 (last being EA only until Aug31)

simo ( 2015-09-11 23:02:00 +0300 )edit
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Don't know who suggested this as correct, but I'm removing that suggestion. The answer I'm looking for is only if the quote is still valid, in other words, are the Early Adopter reported bugs (with enough of importance) either fixed or listed as announced?

simo ( 2015-09-12 10:56:14 +0300 )edit
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