What will your next phone be? [answered]

I have had iPhones and Android phones before I got my Jolla phone. I will never ever go back to either of those other platforms anymore.

That leaves me with the Fairphone2 which I quite like as the only candidate in the near future.

But actually did I buy a PuzzlePhone during their crowd funding campaign as I feel it is the perfect match to Jolla, as a hardware platform (TOH) as well as a company. I convinced myself there there surely will be some sort of cooperation and SFOS will be available for it at some point in time. I dearly hope that I will find I was right in that in the end.

This is from Puzzlephone page: “Jolla is excited to support PuzzlePhone, the Finnish Mobile device made by Circular Devices, and both communities to port Sailfish OS, the independent mobile OS from Finland,” says Harri Hakulinen, Jolla CTO. So I guess there will be Sailfish on Puzzlephone but I'm still wondering whether it will be official Jolla support or just community port.

I had and have still a Nokia N900. Then I got my Jolla because of the TOH wow factor. I'm also not a bit fan of Google's Android chaos platform or Apple's jailed ecosystem. I will stick with Jolla phone until it dies as want to develop personal TOH. The support of 3rd party HW developers for "TOH-like" expandability is what decides my next SFOS phone (btw kimmoli&dirkvl&andrew [tohkbd2] are brilliant TOH makers!). I might consider due modularity Fairphone 2 or PuzzlePhone.

I have a Fairphone 2 lying around waiting for SFOS support.

@jtiemer It's coming! Fairphone confirmed on Twitter that they are working on Android support. Meanwhile you should try out the community port!

Same here!

Double thumps up for this one. I am with you, bro!

Are there any news about it? It looks interesting.

Yeah, I'd never heard of them before. Looks very interesting. Their website looks like a complete scam to me (bad/inaccessible design, Flash/Java interface, not very forthcoming on what they're about, etc.), but they've had a lot of press over the last year. This is the most analytical article I could find on them: http://reviewjolla.blogspot.co.uk/2016/02/promise-on-sailfish-os-turing-phone-by.html .. they do exist, have recently moved to Finland and switched to Sailfish OS, but there appear to be patent/trademark issues over the metal they propose to use.

Regarding the design: I've enough holes in my trousers already from my Jolla's sharp corners, so was rather looking forward to a phone with a rounded design. Oh well :-/

@HuholomanJollaSuomi has this.

Quick summary: TRI and Jolla are finishing the licensing agreement, but it hasn't been signed yet (as of Feb 26, 2016). The final agreement should happen within few weeks. While TRI has already announced the use of Sailfish, Jolla hasn't given any information out yet.

Looking at the specs, Sailfish 2.0 seems to be the official OS... pretty odd since they claim it provides end to end encryption, while Sailfish has no native disk or mail encryption support. Nonetheless, interesting project indeed. One bummer: proprietary connector.

Ubuntu could become a choice for the tablet - on the phone I agree it's far away from usable even far behind FirefoxOS wich made really a great step forward with 2.5 and 2.6 - a pity they dropped it in this state of evolution

@elastic I am sorry to say that on the tablet in particular there is nothing better around than SFOS. I am sorry because only a few of us have a chance to experience this. I would wish we all could enjoy that device together. It is pure pleasure.

@hubat unfortunately I'm not among the lucky 540 ... So I can't buy what is not on the market ...

@elastic I am not either. I bought one of the rogue ones in China as described here

I am not happy about using dubious channels to acquire it. But I sure am happy about the tablet. The more I feel sad about the fact that not everyone can just get one and I hope that Jolla finds ways to make (unencumbered) SFOS available to the masses on the tablet form factor 'soon'.

The same applies mostly to me as well. While I didn't have an option to select between N900 and N9, the latter has always provided the user interface and experience I have been looking for. I have always thought that Apple has the best UI/UX designers, but N9 raised the bar to the new heights. If there will ever be a phone, which provides the same UI/UX, I will buy it. Regardless the manufacturer or OS underneath.

Buying Jolla phone was somewhat act of charity; to show support and (somewhat) secure future for the next best alternative. I didn't like the phone at first, and I still hate the lack of AMOLED display, only 16 GB internal storage or crappy main camera, but in general I'm quite pleased with it. I do hope that the next update of Sailfish will bring decent support of SD card to the Android apps as well. That would allow me to push the amount of internal storage more close my N9's 64 GB. I use still my N9 occasionally (e.g. Jolla's battery is empty, still pretty good offline maps, games), but I have to admit that Jolla has been my main phone since I got it.

@krs I think my use of the N9 as my main GPS device is what accelerated its death, I remember it getting pretty warm when I had GPS running for hours on end! Still good with offline maps you say? I was under the impression you no longer can download newer maps for the N9, is that not the case? The N9 also was an embodiment of what "made in finland" meant.. sad day when the ship sank.. at least many of the guys that brought us that phone are still around here at Jolla.

I also feel like jolla is a downgrade after N9, but I also think that jolla is the best option at the moment. About whatsapp: have you tried the unofficial "whatsup"? It is sailfish native and works pretty well, I have been using it since I got my jolla (late 2015) and just one major issue happened when whatsapp changed something and it took couple of days from the makers to repair the app. I believe I got the latest version from warehouse...

Thanks for the tip.. I heard some stuff about being blocked by whatsapp if a non-official app was detected..

For my understanding, that issue should be resolved but I suppose there is always a small risk.

When the whatsup stopped workin I used sailorgram for the time being. It was quite nice, messages were received faster etc. sadly people are keen on whatsapp.

Can/will the blank screen gestures be ported to all SFOS phones? Paging @kimmoli??

The nice progress with the Oneplus X might be a result that Oneplus publishes the kernel sources in a usable form on github. No idea if the touch gestures on the blank screen need a special touch HW or driver SW or just some kernel support. But apparently everything seems to be in place here :)

@ApB propably not on _all_ phones. I tweaked kernel driver a bit to make it work together with mce (thanks to @spiiroin for mce changes).

ofc it can be made to work, but either needs kernel driver tweaking if hw supports them, or by software but it might cost high battery drain.

@jobe-m well, i headbanged 2 days on wrong vibra-driver as it was enable in defconfig - and there is not even that chip in the phone. And do not forget @Taaeem (hope this is his uid here) for making most of the port. i just tweaked some small parts on top of it.

@kimmoli have you tried J1?

Yeah so I really like TOH as well, for quite a mundane reason: I have a Quad Lock glued to one of my TOHs so I can attach the phone securely to my bike. That's a good argument for the Fairphone, with its swappable backs..