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Would it be possible to combine the Phone app and the People app into one application? [answered]

asked 2014-01-14 18:11:48 +0300

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updated 2014-01-15 00:33:41 +0300

I think it would be a good idea to combine the Phone app and People app in the same application. At the same time the addressbook search functions could be always visible / available (perhaps in their own wsiping page).

my point is, for example it is little bit complicate to move from Phone app to People app search mode etc. I think with one app we will get the better user experience.

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for what it is worth: by design Sailfish does not support tabs: menus are used instead

FlyingSheep ( 2014-01-14 22:18:47 +0300 )edit

with tabs I meant swiping pages, sorry.

MarkQ ( 2014-01-15 00:32:04 +0300 )edit

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answered 2014-01-14 21:12:53 +0300

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The contacts are integrated in the phone-app - first pulley-menu item and yes it looks the same but you can pull back from there to the recent list!

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But the People app is also showing recent list. Why to have two? Instead let's have just one; perhaps update the People's recent with the direction (called/received/missed) and add the "enter number" to the pulley, then we don't need the Phone app.

CsTom ( 2014-01-14 23:07:54 +0300 )edit

@CsTom oh please dont! the recent lists are different, one is latest actions (all actions) one is latest calls. One does show an entry for every action the other shows one entry per contact...

chemist ( 2014-01-15 03:38:12 +0300 )edit

@chemist: well, I am not saying the People-app should stay as it is, but the functionality of the two would be nice to be merged in some sensible way. I am sure that a UI designer can come up with a great and relatively simple solution :-) I never understood the separate Contacts and Phone already on N9 (eventhough they're connected, you can search contacts from Phone, just like in Jolla, but then what's the point separating them?)

CsTom ( 2014-01-15 10:09:08 +0300 )edit

@CsTom we already have a together about the UI to be changed of the people-app as it is not very good to handle atm

chemist ( 2014-01-15 12:25:18 +0300 )edit

@CsTom: the plan is to change the recent contacts list in the contact browser, so that when invoked from Phone it excludes call events, from Messages it excludes messaging events, and similar for Email.

MattVogt ( 2014-01-23 03:51:21 +0300 )edit

answered 2014-01-15 01:05:33 +0300

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I don't see a reason to combine this two apps, since they have completely different usecases. The people app can save so much more information than just telephone numbers. Or would you combine calendar (Dates), mail client (obvious?) and map (Address) into the same app, just because they access data that you can browse in the people app?

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I agree that these apps should not be merged, the modular design is better. Integrarion of various ways to access information is ok and supports best different use-cases and scenarios.

foss4ever ( 2014-01-15 02:22:51 +0300 )edit

answered 2014-01-15 01:49:58 +0300

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Some background, from my point of view:

If I want to phone somebody there are typically 3 routes I take

a) use the call history -> call somebody who called me / who I called recently /missed call etc.

b) call somebody I know, already stored as a contact, but have not had contact with recently (not in call history).

c) call a "new" number, entered via the dialer (and often saved as a contact after the call).

On the N9 the phone app offered these 3 routes as tabs: thus from a UX point of view, almost equally weighted.

The Samsung Note 3 offers a 4th route: "favourties", but to my mind that overlaps enough with call history to be ignored.

Thinking about how I call people: most often I use the call history.

The phone app of Sailfish - defaults to a) the call history, and offers b) and c) via pulley menu. Thus a) (which I use most often) has a higher weighting than b) or c).

I tend to use the People app mainly to manage contacts (add, edit, delete). But it does offer a secondary route to call and SMS the contact, thought I don't think I have ever called or SMSed yet from the People app.

So I guess If you really wanted to merge the Phone and People apps, you would probably also have to merge SMS into the same. And as Netzvieh points out in his answer, the People app is more than about just contacting people, so you would have to integrate even more apps into the mix.

However i do agree with CaTom, that is a little bit strange that the People app also seems to display a short recent history. Perhaps this causes the confusion. Maybe it would be better if the people app gave higher priority to the Alphabet Sections - displaying the whole alphabet rather than just A to I.

I am not saying that your idea is not possible, and that it might not result in a mega-cool phone/contacts/messaging app, but I don't yet see any compelling benefits of an integrated app over the current setup.

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The recent list in the people app, also takes chat (and maybe email, not tested that yet) into account, so it seems like it's a compilation of all those "recent" features in the other communication apps? But I'm not using it, so I wouldn't oppose to put it into a pulley page.

netzvieh ( 2014-01-15 02:00:32 +0300 )edit

The problem with the phone app call history is the current behavior i.e. the call fires immediately when you click the entry on the call history.

This feature makes it unusable to me as it led all ready to too many "pocket" or othetwise accidental calls.

That has been the main reason for me to favor people app and look the missed calls from notification page.

At mimimun the current behaviour of the call app history list should be chaged e.g. the same as in people app recent "activity" list, which activates the contact card instead of direct dialing out.

perhaps people app should be dedicated to managing people's related properties only and all activity related to and with contact would be shown in phone app only with measures to prevent all kind of accidental activity.

Kari ( 2014-01-15 07:52:49 +0300 )edit

@Kari: The problem with the "recent call->opens contact card" (as I wrote somewhere else too) that in this way you couldn't know which channel the recent call was made if the contact had many numbers...

@FlyingSheep: so you could just use People's recent listing (which could be slightly modified) instead of the Phone-app's recent listing :)

CsTom ( 2014-01-15 10:16:08 +0300 )edit

@CsTom I would assume that phone is able to track the number of received or made call/sms and based on the information highlight/select the correct entry on the people app detailed contact information view.

At the moment I personally prefer the combination of people app and notification page.

unfortunately the call app doesn't remember the last selection after closing the app. This means the dialer mode needs to be selected each time separately.

Kari ( 2014-01-15 12:23:23 +0300 )edit

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