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XA2 Ultra [h4233][3.0.2] battery runs flat over night

asked 2019-03-22 03:42:28 +0200

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updated 2019-03-22 11:25:29 +0200

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I installed the EA update to 3.0.2.8 on Wednesday, 03.20.19 and thought it might have improved the power usage issue like it said in the release notes. But unfortunately that is not true, at least not for me. With stock Android or Lineage i easily got 2-3 days out of it. Battery drainage has always been much higher than with stock Android or even Lineage OS but it still lasted me a full day. I only charged it after getting home from work. Now, after installing 3.0.2.8, this hasn't changed much over the day. But over night, the battery runs completely flat. This is now the second time it happened. Yesterday i even charged it to a 100% at 10pm and left it on my bedside table as usual. I woke up at around 2am and noticed it had completely died due to a flat battery. This is barely over 4h to run from 100% down to 0. This hasn't happened with 3.0.1 ever before. The device is brand new, bought in January 2019, so i have no reason to believe in a dead/broken battery. It still lasts the whole day with occasional usage when i charged it back up in the morning. And it takes a reasonable amount of charge/mAh. So obviously there's something very wrong here. I have two SIM cards installed and WIFI turned on all the time. I have yet to see if turning off wifi changes anything.

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I run with the WIFI disconected (XA2 Plus H4493 and I have a big data plan), this way I have almost two days of battery (like with Android).

manu007 ( 2019-03-22 10:09:48 +0200 )edit

In my case some internal Android pprocesses get stuck in a loop and drain the battery. They are quite easy to spot using top or another tool of your choice, and workaround by restarting Android support.

I installed 3.0.2 just today so I can't tell has the situation changed yet.

Direc ( 2019-03-24 21:12:37 +0200 )edit

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answered 2019-03-22 06:05:26 +0200

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It is probably wi-fi. Battery drain with wi-fi on is listed as a known issue on XA2 in 3.0.2. release notes.

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The drain caused by WLAN (while device mostly idling) has been measured to be about 3-4% (battery capacity) per hour. So a full battery should last for about 25-30 hours.

jovirkku ( 2019-03-22 11:05:27 +0200 )edit
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wifi is not the only reason! turn wifi off and the battery will still drop significantly.With such battery it should last for at least 2 days with average usage.I cant understand why on android, batteries last much longer than with sailfish installed.Im still supporting Jolla but im surprised of how much they're disappointing in return

babo ( 2019-03-22 11:40:28 +0200 )edit

In addition to WiFi drain, 4G also drains the battery significantly faster. I mainly use 3G and WiFi only when needed. I have 50-40% battery left by the end of the day (roughly 6:30 to 22:30). And I have Android support on all the time.

raketti ( 2019-03-22 13:18:20 +0200 )edit

Nope, Wi-fi nor 4g can be the reason for the drain. I have disconnected both and still lose at least 20% over night (which means within about 8 hours). The new battery saving mode also does not seem to work as relieable as the one from one guy whose name i forgot on OpenRepos. That one redueced the drain, at least on my Xperia Xa2 Dual-SIM to under 10% in the same time.

Robberey ( 2019-03-28 11:36:22 +0200 )edit

@Robberey, if you are referring to this: https://openrepos.net/content/coderus/jolla-powersave-settings then it does exactly the same as the native powersaving settings (at least if I understood the code correctly: https://github.com/CODeRUS/jolla-settings-powersave). At least I don't think that there's multiple instances of powersaving options in SFOS.

20% during 8 hours is 2,5%/hour, so it's not that bad for SFOS, regarding that the power consumption is (what I've understood) generally higher than when using Android on the same phone model. I get roughly 4-5%/hour with 4G/Wi-Fi (when used) on. So there must be something that's draining your battery significantly.

raketti ( 2019-03-28 12:00:26 +0200 )edit
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answered 2019-03-22 12:43:06 +0200

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Do you use aliendalvik? How many android apps do you have? If you use android compatibility, then it is due to its high power consumption because it starts all installed android apps with no possibility to disable their auto-start because it is still in beta and this is a known issue. You may stop it for night time.

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That somehow does not explain why the battery drain is so excessive during night time. With 3.0.1 I used to go to work at 7am with around 70-80% charge and get back home about 5pm including commute and still have around 30% left. Then i charge it back up to 90-95% and leave it over night. That has not changed at all with the exception that the battery no goes dead over night in just a few hours which it did not do before the update. oh yes, i d use Aliendalvik but there's just a hand full of Apps, the most power guzzling being Whatsapp. All other android apps i use do not have or need background services.

Shoppinguin ( 2019-03-22 19:31:42 +0200 )edit

I tested it for one day with aliendalvik turned off and it is unchanged. The battery on the android in idle condition (standby) without the sim card after 24 hours took about 2% and the sailfish (also standby) without a sim card and on Airplane mode 7-8%.

Chris_ ( 2019-03-25 19:03:12 +0200 )edit
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answered 2019-03-22 17:06:51 +0200

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Do you use the app situation?
I made my experience with two situations running in parallel with same parameter and different values.
Then the app suck so much resource because it permanently change the same parameter with different values (sound-level, display luminosity, or i don't know what else)....

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That's a good point, i will try and change that. Even though i did not change anything prior to updating.

Shoppinguin ( 2019-03-22 19:32:35 +0200 )edit

on my case i couldn't see directly that situation was involved. but i noticed that it happened mostly if i had it on working. Then tried, couples of days without situation. and no problem. then i make my observation with situation on working and noticed that happened a drain with 2 situations in parallel with same setting-point with different values between each situations.
Then i realized, that currently the app don't detect some "parameter-settings conflicts" and secure the phone from this.
That's point that is relative new for me (since less a week), i still don't communicate it to the app-devs. But i have it on the scope... ;-)
Thought that may eventually a point for you... maybe not....
Please give feedback from your future observation.

cemoi71 ( 2019-03-22 19:53:49 +0200 )edit

I did a couple of things, first off, i changed all Situations rules so they would not conflict each other. Then i installed the new vendor binary 17B. The issues appear to be gone now and i even improved battery consuption during daytime. I'm still losing around 15-20% over night, which i consider quite a bit much but it's way better than before.

Shoppinguin ( 2019-03-25 21:01:14 +0200 )edit

hmmm interesting things.... i ask me if it's possible later that the sfos update could apply a binary upgrade. (i'm too lazy to flash my device again and apply settings and backup back, that's my main usage phone).

cemoi71 ( 2019-03-26 12:50:12 +0200 )edit
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answered 2019-03-22 21:09:37 +0200

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The App Advanced Camera drains also a lot of battery if you leave it open or tunning in the background. I forgot to close the App a couple days ago, and 20% of the battery was gone pretty quick.

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After installing the vendor binary 17B Advanced camera does not work anymore. But i never experienced excessive battery drain by that app before.

Shoppinguin ( 2019-03-25 21:01:09 +0200 )edit
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answered 2019-03-27 20:32:39 +0200

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What i did to solve the problem: I changed most of my Situations from time based to location/wifi network based, so they would not conflict each other. During night time wifi will be switched off with the only time based situation. Also it seems flashing the 17B vendor binary helped a good bit with power consumption and proximity sensor problems. Battery consumption is now back to normal.

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which percentage means "back to normal" to you?

Robberey ( 2019-03-28 11:39:13 +0200 )edit

3-5% over 7h

Shoppinguin ( 2019-05-25 21:21:20 +0200 )edit
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