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Your opinion on Sailfish X

asked 2019-08-27 01:49:15 +0200

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updated 2019-08-27 15:10:14 +0200

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I've been following Sailfish for a couple of years and finally bought an Xperia XA2 just to put Sailfish on it. It's only been a week but so far I have very mixed feelings about but overall, don't think I'll be able to use this in the long term as my main device.The swipes, I both love and hate, it's not really intuitive or obvious to use (e.g. I just learned yesterday that swiping down will kill it). The built-in browser is pretty terrible (thank god for Android support) and email equally bad (does it just open up the web browser?). I also don't feel like the "Home" page is super useful either, it's just a bunch of screenshot of recently used apps plastered onto a wall which I'm not sure I even want exposed (e.g. my messages), if by any chance devs are looking at this, please at the minimum add app name either beneath or above the windows to show which apps is which, small change that would improve usability ten times. For the app drawer, I haven't found a way to organize it either, which is terrible. What I do love, is actually the swipes to kill or place the app in the background, I love the feeling of that, it feels super fast. I also kind of like the weather/notification page (be nice if we could have news there as well).

Anyway, I digress. I'm here to find if it's worthwhile to stick with the OS. So... For those that have had Sailfish for a while I'm curious what is your overall opinion on the OS. Are you using it as your main phone? Are there features that you're in love with that makes it a lot better? What are some features/experiences that newcomers like me might be missing out on?

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yes, using as a main phone. browser sicks really bad, but hey: it's a real linux kernel! unfortunatelly ms got my ten dollars for this device. open the sources, plz

manu ( 2019-08-27 02:56:04 +0200 )edit

I think SF OS is best OS you can get right now from the ux perspective. But: I had it from V1 and I think V1 UI/UX was just better. But the thing in my opinion is: I never used droid or iOS, I came von Symbian (which was a good solid system on the N8, even for touch screen - but noone seemed to like it) and I had some views of meego (on the N9). SF simply feels fester, you can close apps right away (just a hint: Swipe from Top kills apps if you use it from the edge and opens the new top menu if you swipe from the middle of the screen), you can switch between apps really fast without having to press on tiny buttons. Going back is a simple swipe just like accepting things like you make a callender entry and accept it (on droid which I had to use for three weeks and it was worst feeling ever you have to push a button on the top left corner which is aweful). Other OSses copy that edge swipe from meego / SF. But there are some glitches like you have to push the accept button when receive a bt file (I think it was a swipe in SF 1), yes you can fast reach the notification screen - but for left handed usage its pretty hard to swipe from right to minimize an open app. SF 1 was better: Swipe up for events / notifications view (app drawer was just reachable from home screen which is not bad) and minimizing was both edge swipes. Right now I disabled droid support on my xperia x for a while. I use it kind of once to twice a month, why should I - but I even do not usw facebook, whatsapp, instagram, banking apps. Yes the browser is aweful, yes, mail too (I can not understand why there is no plain text only where you can choose size of latters). But overall UX is better and much faster than ever experienced. I always get into trouble when I shall do somethin on my wifes mobile - she has droid inside...

In the app drawer you can do a long prees and then move all icons anywhere you want. And just another advantage: No Google, Amazon, ... on it.

NuklearFart ( 2019-08-27 03:06:02 +0200 )edit

I've been using Sailfish as my main phone for a couple of years. Give it some time! The basic features feel intuitive at the beginning and the more you use it, the more "advanced" features you will find. For instance: Swiping the keyboard left/right will switch between the different keyboards installed (Most people know this), but swiping the keyboard from the top to bottom will close the keyboard. Etc.

The more I used it, the more I liked it. Trying to use a droid now feels like a gigantic leap backwards and is extremely frustrating...

Nova ( 2019-08-27 07:59:45 +0200 )edit
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Two weeks without sailfish X is a nightmare. Even if my Android phone is OK. I miss the swipes and never seem to get the logic. On sailfish I never worried about security. And all the necessary apps were there and working. Just those requiring newer android did not work on my Xperia X, on the XA2 they supposedly work. I'm just waiting for my next hardware. I'll be back.

DiBasse ( 2019-08-27 09:18:33 +0200 )edit

I csn use Android apps I like/need, but have a Linux with a good user experience. It needs some time to set it up, but that's worth it.

wosrediinanatour ( 2019-08-27 12:46:37 +0200 )edit

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answered 2019-08-27 14:58:25 +0200

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updated 2019-08-27 14:59:13 +0200

You can see from a few rough edges here and there that SailfishOS isn't made by a very big company, but I do think it's overall the best mobile OS out there. Sure, there are issues like the abysmally bad default OS and mail application that could use a bit of work, but most of those issues are fairly easily solved by just installing considerably better Android apps.

The way I see it, the few things that could use some work can be fixed by installing an Android app while everything else is pretty much spot on right out of the (proverbial) box. Nokia's MeeGo Harmhattan, of which SailfishOS is a continuation, already got down gesture controls better than any of the competition up until very recently so if you're coming from that direction (like I did) then SailfishOS is going to be much more fluid to use than any other mobile OS. While the controls may feel idiosyncratic at first, once you've gotten the hang of them other OS's will just feel archaic to use. I personally ran afoul of that when I had a short stint with a Nexus 5 between my Jolla 1 and Xperia X.

Don't get me wrong, I can understand that the heavily gesture-based UI may be a lot to take in, but it really is one of those things where once you've gotten the hang of it, everything else starts to feel archaic and old fashioned.

While harping on about the Nokia N9 this many years after it's discontinuation may be a bit odd, it also handled multitasking so much better than it's competition and I do think that SailfishOS, it's successor, continues to have the best multitasking in the industry. Even if iOS and Android have considerably narrowed the gap in recent years with their new gesture controls.

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answered 2019-08-27 13:35:39 +0200

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updated 2019-08-27 13:36:13 +0200

I get everything done I need and Iike the unlike. Give it time and you'll get the hang of swipes and covers - they are integral part of the philosophy. And yes, of course you can organise the app drawer.

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