App request: Client for Telegram

asked 2014-02-04 00:17:25 +0300

Malkavian
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updated 2018-12-18 12:18:17 +0300

JSEHV
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Telegram is a libre software client (with closed distributed servers) for Instant Messaging. It focus on privacy an encryption, it's and it will be free of charge, and uses an open protocol. It tries to look similar to Whatsapp to make easier a transition and uses mobile-numbers for contact manangement.

There are official clients for Android and IOs, and unofficial ones for GNU/Linux, MacOS, Windows, Windows Phone, and web.

https://telegram.org/apps

Edit: 11.07.2017 (h.berd);

There are two (workaround)options now:

you can use sailorgram-harbour (github) from @coderus which is alpha/beta https://github.com/CODeRUS/harbour-sailorgram/releases
you can use the recompiled stable package from ade (warehouse), which is not under development https://openrepos.net/content/ade/sailorgram-only-latest-stable-080-iijoki

Depecher from Openrepos works: https://openrepos.net/content/blacksailer/depecher

Edit: 18.12.2018 (jse);

A new Telegram Client app is in the works, called Telegra Me. It is actively developed and looking very promising. You can check the source at: http://gitlab.unique-conception.org/sailfish-app/telegra-me

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offtopic: http://security.stackexchange.com/questions/49782/is-telegram-secure

Hess ( 2014-02-04 01:31:42 +0300 )edit

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I would like a native Telegram app for Sailfish OS as well. I know security might not be as good as they advertise, but in my opinion it's better then giving al your personal info to Facebook, since they own WhatsApp as wel.

Jozz ( 2014-02-21 00:36:58 +0300 )edit

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A Threema port would be nice also. At the moment in Germany it looks like Threema is more popular (in the press) as Telegram. And I don't trust an russian company more as an us company. Threema is lokated in the swizerland. That sounds a little bit better.

skull77 ( 2014-02-22 15:50:48 +0300 )edit

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But Telegram is Opensource and well documented. On Threema you only have trust.

Sailor ( 2014-02-22 22:43:10 +0300 )edit

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But were is the different? Telegram is opensource, but the servers are in russia. Russia is not known for its trustworthiness. So perhaps the source of Telegram is trustworth, but what is with the company who ownes it? It's a Facebook clone. Threema is closedsource, but its servers are in the swizerland and its a small company which i trust (for the moment).

skull77 ( 2014-02-22 23:02:23 +0300 )edit

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answered 2018-10-12 01:10:51 +0300

Desmo
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updated 2018-12-09 09:06:21 +0300

JSEHV
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Depecher works well but media can not be shared currently. If you need to share media then use the Telegram PWA (progressive web app). Works very well.

Also there are still a lot of bugs that need to be fixed, plus some other basic features are missing.

It would be nice if Depecher would arrive in the Jolla Appstore.

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I wonder whether there‘s any active development going on regarding Depecher. It is nice.

Kopekenscheich ( 2018-12-23 14:54:26 +0300 )edit

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answered 2014-11-12 10:58:56 +0300

olpe
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updated 2014-11-12 12:29:31 +0300

If someone like me doesn't want to use the android version of telegram and does not want to have their browser occupied by telegram you could try this:

https://openrepos.net/content/olpe/sailfish-telegram-webview

It's just a silica webview for the web interface of Telegram. At least it works for me as a temporary solutions while waiting for native app and/or plugin.

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Otherwise nice, but no notifications!

Jesse ( 2014-11-12 21:18:14 +0300 )edit

yeah i know. I don't think the browser supports notifications either.

olpe ( 2014-11-13 08:47:47 +0300 )edit

sailfish-telegram-webview doesn't exist anymore

yuri ( 2017-05-17 23:26:00 +0300 )edit

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answered 2017-07-15 01:46:47 +0300

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@coderus I saw that your cloned github project of sailorgram is under active development. It seems every verson is in alpha stage, but maybe the community can help you with some improvements like translation or feedback. Can you give us a short description about the roadmap etc. pls? thanks for your work and all the best!

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development is stopped

yuri ( 2017-07-16 12:51:32 +0300 )edit

not really. Latest commit by CODeRUS 13 days ago as you can see on github. Hope he changed his opinion.

h.berd ( 2017-07-16 14:22:00 +0300 )edit

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answered 2017-07-11 20:57:38 +0300

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Recently there are problems with the stable version from ade on warehouse for me. I can record audio messages and send them to anyone, but only android users seem too be able to play them. WP and IOS users can't hear my audio messages.

Is there a fix for this problem?

Please Devs have a look at sailorgram!!! It's a good and necessary app for SFOS.

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answered 2014-04-12 00:58:14 +0300

wernel
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Hi, I use webogram with webcat web browser, and works well.

Bye!

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Good idea. Do you get notifications?

Jozz ( 2014-04-12 01:39:39 +0300 )edit

No, perhaps this function will work only in a native app.

wernel ( 2014-04-13 13:16:38 +0300 )edit

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With the standard browser works well too, and perhaps a little better.

wernel ( 2014-04-15 19:02:55 +0300 )edit

Webogram is great to run on firefox browser , it also shows notifications on the desktop. But I am definitely more inclined towards a QML app !

pavi ( 2014-12-04 05:06:17 +0300 )edit

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answered 2014-12-04 05:13:05 +0300

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http://look-pavi.blogspot...

There are some build instructions for the Desktop version at https://github.com/telegramdesktop/tdesktop/blob/master/QTCREATOR.md . This one atleast clearly tells that Telegram Desktop client relies heavily on Qt . There should be some way to port/adapt it for Sailfishos ?

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answered 2015-02-24 18:01:27 +0300

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updated 2015-02-24 18:01:50 +0300

Bad News. The messages are not encrypted in memory and apparently not even on disk. Perhaps it is fixable on the Jolla`s solution! :)

More info: http://blog.zimperium.com/telegram-hack/

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hacking an application by gaining root access it not make any sense to me. If you hack the whole device you may read what's in memory for any application.

tvicol ( 2015-02-25 16:34:12 +0300 )edit

I guess that the main idea was to show that locally the messages are not stored in an encrypted form, as Telegram claims to do. It is true that you can read everything if you are root, however if you stored your data encrypted you should read just the encrypted data :) and not the clear message.

ruga ( 2015-02-25 16:43:46 +0300 )edit

Unless the encrypted data is never decrypted on the device, the messages will be plain text at some point. If malicious program gets root on the device, it certainly can also get hold of the decryption keys and decrypt the messages. malicious program with root priviledges can access any data you can see

I have hard time decrypting messages in my head, even if the encryption method is ROT-13, not to mention RSA or similar. This finding is non-issue IMO.

japa-fi ( 2015-03-01 11:03:22 +0300 )edit

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answered 2015-03-11 13:28:09 +0300

M.Bln.
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Seems a few people work already on that topic: I found also this here... http://talk.maemo.org/showthread.php?t=92741

Maybe the Devs can join their affords to minimize doubled work!

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From what I follow these guys ^ are doing the correct work of including it in telepathy which means better alerts !

pavi ( 2015-03-12 13:43:16 +0300 )edit

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answered 2014-03-25 10:07:48 +0300

dhaumann
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For those who cannot wait for a native app, you can install the Android Telegram app by following https://together.jolla.com/question/30926/howto-install-google-play/. You'll get the app through the Google Play store then without an issue.

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I prefer not to use android apps and I definitely don't want to use any Google related services. But thx for the tip.

Jozz ( 2014-03-25 10:17:33 +0300 )edit

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to use Android Apps is very easy.... but it will not help to bring jolla alive on the market

cvp ( 2014-03-25 11:48:54 +0300 )edit

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Are you people aware of this thread on TMO?

People already started and compiled, even got it working. Only thing needed is just a UI I think.

BonoNL ( 2014-03-25 23:31:44 +0300 )edit

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@Jozz the telegram app has no Google Service dependencies.

qrosh ( 2014-03-26 13:47:48 +0300 )edit

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It's on f-droid, which runs perfectly on the jolla

xcv_ ( 2014-04-12 20:05:26 +0300 )edit

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answered 2015-09-02 16:48:30 +0300

Kabouik
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While I love Whatsapp integration in CepiPerez's Whatsup, and the way he designed the interface, I'm slowly starting to move towards something more secure, and more durable since Whatsup's development seems compromised (see the application thread on TMO).

Telegram might be an option, but I find Jollagram to be a bit incomplete in comparison to Whatsup (and it's not developping fast, is it?) and for some reason I have trouble using Sailorgram: it crashes randomly when my phone is sleeping in my pocket, and I don't get any notifications despite the option being ticked.

I stumbled upon Open Whisper Systems while browsing Stack Exchange, and it seems quite promising, as it also provides calls. That could be very interesting in my opinion. Would it be possible to develop a native Sailfish application with that, or at least tell the current developpers that there is demand (but, is there, except me?).

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I think that the best way to make your proposal noticed is to not hide it as an answer in a thread about something else, but to create a thread of its own ;)

Orologiaio ( 2015-09-02 21:06:48 +0300 )edit

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I would follow @Orologiaio's suggestion :-) SailorGram is unde development and notifications when in background are not supported yet (but the developer is working on it). So you have to give it a bit time :-)

molan ( 2015-09-03 07:41:55 +0300 )edit

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