The camera inside J1 is 8Mp. From the rest of your post I gather that you would be quite happy with the suggestions so far. Wouldn't it be easier just to say so?

Thanks for the correction, I edited my answer to fix it.

I am ok with most of other suggestions, but wanted to point out what we have lost in the last years in term of functionality. Things like HDMI, FM and camera can't be replaced by software and powerful processors. I hope a new phone could bring all this back...

My daughter loves my old Nokia 700. It has a lot of the stuff I'm hoping Jolla will put inside a smaller phone some day. But it runs on Symbian (Belle), which means that Microsoft has decided that it should die. Your N8 has been handed the same death sentence.

That's why I am trying to work out what that smaller phone should be. Sure, I could throw up a list of things that I want included and hope that someone will vote for it. But I thought that a wiki would be more constructive in getting some kind of debate about the details. It all seemed like a good idea at the time.

Of course it finally comes down to the decisions of the Jolla company. They are the ones creating the phone.

But Jolla is a company with probably the sharpest community in the world and they know it. That is why they are listening to us. I personally might not even be among the average people here, but I can do the dirty work instead. I can look at the smorgasbord of ideas flying around at TJC and then collect them here hoping that they will somehow condensate into a useful product. ...one that I can buy for my daughter. She has used my left-behinds for years (and proved beyond any doubt that she knows how to treat a phone) so now she deserves a proper tool that works with her smaller hands. Not a cheap toy.

You too deserve something worthy of replacing your N8. But if we sit down and just wait for things to happen then who will do our work for us? Who will wish upon a star in our place? So please forgive me for being an annoying pain in the butt. This is the only place in the whole wide world where I can present my wishes for a really good phone for smaller hands.

Yes, the chances are slim even here, but maybe..?

had the n8 before, now the jolla. no other phone on the marked can replace the n8 but jolla is nearest. i'd love to see the n8 haptic - so no plastic and seriously i want the block keyboard back. but after seeing an android device i think jolla is best replacement when it works fine. but you should think that the symbian system was pretty well known since ages, so jolla can not be that far in the system. but i think you are right when you say that hardware wise the jolla phone could and should be much better than the n8 4 years ago. btw my n8's battery run 3-4 days and on holyday 6 days without charging as long as i phoned not more than 3 hours a day ;)

The Intel x3 series of SoC all have built-in FM receivers. ...and adding a built-in fractal FM antenna would be really nice (as I use a bluetooth headset). That would make a nice radio for the even the most frugal user.

A water repellent treatment should be used. The smaller phone is a tool to rely on and would thus benefit from the extra cost of the coating. Dustproofing is harder to do and might not be necessary.

The J1 seems to do fine with me. ...and I powdercoat stuff for a living...

That is why I'm guessing that the next Jolla phone (that I've nicknamed J2) will be of the same size as the current one (J1). For my own use I would prefer a phone with the same size as the current phone, but others (even here at TJC) have requested a smaller device.

there are still no really usefull TOHs on the market and all of them are community products and no sign of a "real" company to make one

@michel
Anyone that caters to the needs of the Jolla community is a real company. Personally I'm thinking about buying a solar TOH. ...but would a smaller phone need to use the same concept?

@michel: I bought those other halves (from people I value more than 'real companies') and I like them. I hope that's OK with you.

of course thats no problem for me and i didnt want to insult the people that do otherhalves at all. Its just that I think there are too few TOHs on the market to make the next jollas dimensions depended on them

If the J3 goes modular then it could have a different shape.

Any suggestions?

I have tried some mockups of a smaller phone. Slightly rounded corners ia all it takes to make the phone more comfortable. To make the phone look like a bar of soap is not necessary.

The shape of the smaller phone is also mentioned in the Ergonomy category.