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Jolla tablet announced at Slush '14 [Announcement] [not relevant]

asked 2014-11-14 18:20:09 +0300

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updated 2014-11-19 11:45:08 +0300

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Update: Indiegogo link.

A crowdfunding campaign for a Jolla tablet was announced by Marc Dillon at the Slush event. Target is $380,000, which should be easily achievable. Indeed, wouldn't surprise me if they get it in a couple of days, or even 24 hours.

Seems like more of a pre-order campaign than a drive to fund the actual device. Doing it via Indiegogo or Kickstarter definitely gets more publicity.

Spec highlights: Intel Quad Core (presumably Atom), 7.9" 2048x1536 IPS, 2GB RAM, 4300Mah, 5MP Front, 2MP Rear, 32GB ROM & SD. $189.

IMO it's rather disappointing that they decided to go with Intel for the chip ... I know they're waving around wads of cash, desperate for design wins, and it must be very tempting for a small company like Jolla, but I loathe their corporate ethos and business practices, and even their new Atoms are years behind ARM. Not very 'unlike'. Also, got to wonder about the May '15 delivery date ... assuming they have no working prototype of either 'Sailfish 2.0' or the tablet, or they would have been shown. Good to see a far better screen though.

---- Pre-release speculation

Render of the edge of a phone with almost no bezel has been posted on Twitter and the Jolla homepage. Together with a sign-up for notification of the event (w̶h̶i̶c̶h̶ i̶f̶ p̶e̶d̶d̶a̶n̶t̶s̶ w̶a̶n̶t̶ t̶o̶ t̶r̶y̶ t̶o̶ c̶l̶o̶s̶e̶ t̶h̶i̶s̶ t̶h̶r̶e̶a̶d̶,̶ t̶h̶e̶ s̶i̶g̶n̶ u̶p̶ d̶o̶e̶s̶n̶'̶t̶ w̶o̶r̶k̶ s̶o̶ J̶o̶l̶l̶a̶ n̶e̶e̶d̶ t̶o̶ b̶e̶ i̶n̶f̶o̶r̶m̶e̶d̶ o̶f̶ t̶h̶a̶t̶ -̶ y̶o̶u̶ r̶e̶c̶e̶i̶v̶e̶ n̶o̶ e̶-̶m̶a̶i̶l̶).

I think we can safely assume it is a phone, and not a tablet, since Sailfish currently lacks tablet features.

The clue for a reasonably near announcement on a new phone (though I thought it'd be at MWC) was the development e-mail recently stating the commencement of work on UI scaling etc for different resolutions.

Have to say, it's only the edge of the phone, but looks a hell of a lot more clean and modern than what we have now!

Edit: Could of course be a third party OEM announcing a Sailfish device in conjunction with Jolla.

Edit2: It makes sense actually. The recent €100 off on the Jolla, then week extension suggests clearing inventory, and AFAIK no new Jollas have been manufactured since March / April of this year, it would make more sense at this stage to bring out a new model than do a new production run on the old model.

Edit3: Just looked at it on a bigger desktop monitor. It looks to be an Other Half that's pictured (albeit more complex than existing ones). It would be rather strange to launch a countdown and hype people up only to let them down, especially as it wouldn't be 'bigger' than TOHKBr2. If it is a phone, I guess it definitely has TOH.

Edit4: Review Jolla seem to think that it is indeed the front part of a device in the same style as the current Jolla (albeit with tiny bezels), which I mistook for a TOH. Would appear not to have a TOH in that case, or none attached in the render / photo. Still think a larger phone is far more likely than a tablet ... I think it'd take a long time to get Sailfish to a stage where it was decently usable in tablet format, and it'd be very weird to have an archaic phone on sale and a presumably much more modern tablet.

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Nice post, thanks for that, well spotted!

At risk of becoming a real PEDANT, I just visited and successfully signed up. I have received a confirmation email titled 'Something Big', so the sign up process does work.


Edz ( 2014-11-14 18:40:36 +0300 )edit

From what I see from the pic, the announcement could be that batteries are finally available on the Jolla shop. ;-)

Giacomo Di Giacomo ( 2014-11-14 18:42:35 +0300 )edit

Are you using webmail or other? Who's the provider? I tried immediately on Yahoo and Gmail .. still nothing. Edit: they just came through, all with send time of 40 minutes ago. Think Jolla must be using the toaster as their mail server :)

midnightoil ( 2014-11-14 18:44:03 +0300 )edit

@giacomo-di-giacomo that would certainly be a good way of disenchanting people and news sites. see what you mean, but I don't think it's a battery :)

midnightoil ( 2014-11-14 18:47:15 +0300 )edit

@midnightoil - I use Winmail and my email is a Tiscali mail address. My outgoing mail is bounced off Yahoo servers.


Edz ( 2014-11-14 18:49:46 +0300 )edit

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answered 2014-11-14 19:22:02 +0300

Sailor gravatar image

If the TOHs still fit and it's a better device then "Jolla shut up and take my money".

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I don't care too much about compatibility with current TOH... I just hope the new phone will be better - especially the HW like loudspeaker, battery... - and thinner.

torcida ( 2014-11-15 08:57:42 +0300 )edit

Bought an TOHKBD some days ago, now I care...

chappi ( 2014-11-15 14:59:27 +0300 )edit

I care much about compatibility because I bought many TOHs and throwing them all in a trash can would be bad ...

Sailor ( 2014-11-15 15:19:55 +0300 )edit

And the TOH cost is not low....

Claudio Maradonna ( 2014-11-18 20:42:04 +0300 )edit

Iam DISAPPOINTED. Why go into the Tablet market....i was really looking forward to get a Jolla Phone, but now i have to buy the old one (which isnt that good 2014)

florifreeman ( 2014-11-19 11:23:01 +0300 )edit

answered 2014-11-15 06:08:14 +0300

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updated 2014-11-16 05:28:42 +0300

It says "Something BIG is about to begin". Note "is about to begin". This means Jolla and Nokia will start the long awaited co-operation. :)

Or since Nokia will tell us about the future on 17th of November with Jolla following up on 19th, it could be that Jolla will license the Nokia brand :)

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Hehe.. That would be awesome.

torcida ( 2014-11-15 09:04:28 +0300 )edit

This is what I was thinking also. Both Jolla and Nokia are promising news this week.

jjhuopa ( 2014-11-17 16:03:38 +0300 )edit

Ok, so this was confirmed incorrect today with the launch of the N1. Nice to see Nokia back in business, anyway.

jjhuopa ( 2014-11-18 21:02:34 +0300 )edit

My guess: Jolla will announce an official port of Sailfish to the N1. (Okay, more wishful thinking than a real guess.)

Giacomo Di Giacomo ( 2014-11-18 23:46:34 +0300 )edit

answered 2014-11-15 21:38:00 +0300

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updated 2014-11-15 22:08:04 +0300

Xiaomi mi3

This would be BIG...

@JollaTides Wild speculation : Xiaomi builds a Sailfish phone and tablet. Teaser looks very much like an Xiaomi MI3.

— Peter Dam (@pdamio) 15 november 2014
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Good catch. It very much looks like it. Hurm. Wonder what the future strategy will be then? Multiple phones with Sailfish or is this one the Jolla2? Not long to find out I suppose.

theunemployablekoder ( 2014-11-16 00:07:25 +0300 )edit

It actually looks quite different if you have a closer look at it. You could also say the teaser looks very much like a Nokia N9. Strangely, this picture provides more than what we get to see on jolla.com

Anna ( 2014-11-16 03:48:49 +0300 )edit

@theunemployablekoder no need to wonder about strategy. Jolla's strategy has always been with sailfishos rather than manufacturing phones

r0kk3rz ( 2014-11-17 10:48:03 +0300 )edit

answered 2014-11-15 21:45:29 +0300

FinnishSushi gravatar image

Jolla shouldn't be afraid to let go of the TOH idea, even as it is a good one. Historically the devices (Internet Tablet, N900, N9, Jolla) haven't had hardware features that go to the next device. It just leaves too little differentation, I fear that the public won't see the difference. Then again, we'll see in a couple days.

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I think that Google's Ara project along with finnish mobile phone start-ups like Vsenn and Puzzlephone with their modular phone concepts are making TOH concept obsolete. I feel that TOH comes from the same modular hardware concept as the ones mentioned above, it's just too simplified to actually have useful features.

Grunt ( 2014-11-16 16:51:51 +0300 )edit

answered 2014-11-14 18:28:22 +0300

ApB gravatar image

It might lack tablet features NOW but: We know they work for resolution independent interface. The fact that they will announce it doesn't mean it's going to be available at that time so they have time to add stuff to the OS.

However jolla releasing a table seems like a weird move considering the ecosystem isn't there. So probably a phone. Hopefully NOT physically bigger.

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I think the chances of a tablet before a new phone model are vanishingly unlikely. Tablets are typically used much more heavily for browsing and media, and these would be more problematic on a Sailfish tablet than the UI itself. Re: size ... no way of telling, but it does appear to have minute bezels, and appears to be quite slender with no obvious TOH. With bezels that small, they could easily fit a 5" screen into the current phone's footprint.

midnightoil ( 2014-11-14 18:31:27 +0300 )edit

I really hope for a 5.5" phone.

Giacomo Di Giacomo ( 2014-11-14 18:41:26 +0300 )edit

I hope for a phone that fits existing TOHs. Otherwise Jolla would bury this great concept before it could emerge.

naytsyrhc ( 2014-11-14 20:09:21 +0300 )edit

As per edit3 ... if it is a phone, then it definitely has TOH in some form, as it's a TOH in the picture.

midnightoil ( 2014-11-14 20:20:51 +0300 )edit

It's not a TOH. The shape says it isn't.

Anna ( 2014-11-16 05:02:19 +0300 )edit

answered 2014-11-16 16:49:40 +0300

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updated 2014-11-18 14:01:21 +0300

Edit - The we have this from Nokia - hmmmm, makes you wonder?, yes, okay, the dates are different, but only by one day!

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Could this be a collaboration, or just an unlikely coincidence? :P

Okay, so it's a Tablet from Nokia - no surprises there really, looking at the shape of the box. So, perhaps Jolla are launching a tablet as well?, hmmmmm, one more day and we will know!

Very much speculation and great imagination/artwork from YvesPE; image description

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answered 2014-11-14 20:35:40 +0300

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updated 2014-11-14 21:37:33 +0300

Phablet. PHABLET I SAY! >_<

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I'd probably buy a J2, I might buy a tablet. But I won't buy a phablet. I don't understand the purpose of those things. Also, many of the comments here stated that the J1 is about the max size of a phone, many of those would opt for smaller device. Though I might be biased, as I'm in the "smaller" camp.

Fuzzillogic ( 2014-11-15 00:23:01 +0300 )edit

answered 2014-11-14 21:03:06 +0300

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If it is a TOH maybe its an epaper OH to compete with Yota phone in russian market...

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you can be 100% sure its not something for existing customers.

User ( 2014-11-14 23:32:09 +0300 )edit

answered 2014-11-19 10:51:43 +0300

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updated 2014-11-19 11:25:16 +0300

It's a TABLET!!! :-) :-) :-)

Most interesting are the technical similarities with the Nokia N1

N1: Display 7.9 inch (4:3) 2048x1536 resolution Gorilla® glass 3 IPS panel with LED backlight Fully laminated zero air-gap display Chip Intel® 64-bit Atom™ Processor Z3580, 2.3 GHz Memory LPDDR3 (800 MHz), 2 GB Storage eMMC 5.0, 32 GB

JOLLA TAB: Processing 64-bit 1.8GHz Quad-Core/Intel 32GB EMMC ROM 2GB DDR3L-RS RAM Screen 7.85” IPS 2048 x 1536 pixel resolution 330 pixels-per-inch

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Wow, it seems to be almost literally flying out the door!

nthn ( 2014-11-19 11:03:35 +0300 )edit

Damn, a tablet. And I wanted to contribute but all I don't need is a table :-/.

Sailor ( 2014-11-19 11:31:21 +0300 )edit

answered 2014-11-14 20:22:27 +0300

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updated 2014-11-14 20:22:55 +0300

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Something Big ... Tablet. If you look at it, I think size wise it is a tablet. Also think it is not to logic to start launching a new jolla when you have just entered the Russian market.

I think it is a tablet, I hope it is the Jolla 2 with ultra slim design, to be released somewhere next year.. as I just bought my second device replacing the first one

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I don't think Sailfish is anywhere near ready for tablet type usage patterns or screen size, personally. Also, the chances of a tablet having TOH is nil, I would think ... and as per my 3rd edit, the picture is of a TOH, not a phone per se.

midnightoil ( 2014-11-14 20:24:38 +0300 )edit

Not that jolla the first would have been anywhere near being a fully fledged phone,that didnt stop jolla to release it tho :)

tortoisedoc ( 2014-11-14 20:36:40 +0300 )edit

I'd go for tablet as well- the white edge doesn't have any grills or ports visible so must be large device and would they announce a new phone so soon after their promotion? (I have no problem with a new model coming out, has to happen sometime and can never please everyone with timing). We also have had a possible sneak preview of a Sailfish tablet UI at Maybe Jolla announces tablet at Slush 2014 with Q2/Q3 2015 release, and then release Jolla2 phone with immediate availability at MWC 2015?

vesper ( 2014-11-14 22:20:39 +0300 )edit

@vesper I just don't think that's realistic. They're unlikely to reach a level of viability for media functions, and UI aimed at tablets for a long while, even if they put all their resources into it. Announcing products 6-9 months out really isn't very ideal either. Larger, more powerful phone would make far more sense, since in terms of specs and performance, the existing phone is a very unattractive prospect. Also, announcing a new phone directly after a(n extended) promotion is the perfect time ... you've whittled down inventory, and you've made sure that no-one has recently bought the phone for the old price (if they're reasonably informed). I just hope it's using one of the newer ARMv8 SoCs ... they're so much more efficient, and chipsets using them from lower mid-range upwards tend to be very well featured.

midnightoil ( 2014-11-14 23:04:33 +0300 )edit

@midnightoil not sure about how much would be need to be added for the UI -reading Jaakko Roppola's blog it seems like most of the framework for a gesture based multitasking tablet UI is in Sailfish already.

vesper ( 2014-11-15 04:11:25 +0300 )edit

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