asked 2014-12-01 22:31:13 +0200
Using non Jolla battery voids the warranty and may damage your phone! Also this is not a high voltage battery and using it inside Jolla phone can be dangerous!
It's from Huawey Ascend y330.
It's not perfect fit but it works. And i found similar batteries on ebay :
answered 2015-02-20 16:39:16 +0200
Dear Jolla
Instead of warning us about the dangers of non-jolla-branded batteries, how about guiding us to find those spare batteries which are not dangerous, if you can't provide us one branded by you
This testing with other batteries from various sources is, after all, happening because of the lack of supported batteries. However, thanks for the warnings too - they are important!
I would also like to remind you about this answer, posted September 5th 2014, which clearly informs you about the future, urgent need for spare batteries, even giving an estimation of when. This way, the unlike community has given you all the information needed for you to take required actions, and we hope to see an unlike action: https://together.jolla.com/question/53741/battery-capacity/?answer=55350#post-id-55350
WARNINGS posted under this question so far:
WARNING!!! What is see on batteries images posted here is that many (all?) of them has maximum (charging) voltage 4.2V and Jolla phone uses so called high-voltage batteries with charging voltage 4.35V. I am not sure safety circuit can distinguish normal-voltage battery and use lower charging target voltage for it. So, it can just be very dangerous to charge normal voltage batteries with Jolla phone
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Using non Jolla battery voids the warranty and may damage your phone! Also this is not a high voltage battery and using it inside Jolla phone can be dangerous!
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P.S. These batteries can even explode if you put it into your device, they are not high voltage batteries!
with the original, official comment:
Dear Community members,
After all these months of discussion about Jolla batteries, we would like to provide an official comment here:
We never recommend using a non-Jolla approved battery on a Jolla smartphone. There are several reasons for this, but most importantly: using a non-Jolla approved battery on a Jolla smartphone might cause damage to the device. And, if this happens, it is a warranty voiding action. So, if you choose to do this, it is at your own risk, and we can’t promise warranty service if your device gets damaged as a result of doing so. you could Some good news here too: we will have a limited batch of spare batteries coming on sale to the Jolla Online Shop very soon. We will announce the availability first to you, TJC Community members, before promoting them elsewhere. It's not a big batch, so you will have to react quickly if you want one. We unfortunately do not have further information on later availability at this stage, but we will keep you posted.
So stick and stay with us for upcoming news!
Also, a minor note: People might even return their phones after the warranty time and negotiate a full refund at the moment. These phones were sold with official spec "User-replaceable battery", but currently most of the phones have "User-removable battery" (counting out those who managed to get one when there were few sold)
simo ( 2015-02-20 16:46:10 +0200 )edit@simo I wrote a warning as engineer: it is clear that this battery promotion is dangerous, so I should warn people. IMO, this Q should be even closed to avoid cases like this fatal case happened with some guy in India. Battery availability is another topic.
dez ( 2015-02-23 09:45:34 +0200 )edit@dez All these warnings are really important, copied each one to my answer to keep them as visible as possible. If closing this q (feel free to do so IMO), I hope we soon see another q guiding us to safe options (e.g. sharing required specs for a battery used on Jolla, exact dimensions etc. if branded by 3rd party)
simo ( 2015-02-23 13:09:25 +0200 )editanswered 2014-12-04 15:09:01 +0200
Dear Community members,
After all these months of discussion about Jolla batteries, we would like to provide an official comment here:
We never recommend using a non-Jolla approved battery on a Jolla smartphone.
There are several reasons for this, but most importantly: using a non-Jolla approved battery on a Jolla smartphone might cause damage to the device. And, if this happens, it is a warranty voiding action. So, if you choose to do this, it is at your own risk, and we can’t promise warranty service if your device gets damaged as a result of doing so.
you could
Some good news here too: we will have a limited batch of spare batteries coming on sale to the Jolla Online Shop very soon. We will announce the availability first to you, TJC Community members, before promoting them elsewhere. It's not a big batch, so you will have to react quickly if you want one.
We unfortunately do not have further information on later availability at this stage, but we will keep you posted.
So stick and stay with us for upcoming news!
Jolla Team
P.S. These batteries can even explode if you put it into your device, they are not high voltage batteries!
Actually there was no previous communication ;-)
So thanks for this announcement, even if everybody is still wondering why Jolla wasn't able to order more battery than phones and sell them in the Store from the beginning. Seems an easy way to make few extra €, so I imagine there is a reason that prevent you to do it?
Sthocs ( 2014-12-04 15:20:22 +0200 )editanswered 2014-12-13 15:02:32 +0200
My new batteries from ebay are here:
I did cut off the plastic pins on bot sides with a modelling knife (it's very easy!)
The result:
At 100% plugged in charger:
upower -d Device: /org/freedesktop/UPower/devices/battery_battery native-path: battery power supply: yes updated: Mon Dec 15 18:47:17 2014 (11 seconds ago) has history: yes has statistics: yes battery present: yes rechargeable: yes state: charging energy: 6.18298 Wh energy-empty: 0 Wh energy-full: 6.18298 Wh energy-full-design: 7.98 Wh energy-rate: 1.30937 W voltage: 4.30994 V percentage: 100% temperature: 29.1 degrees C capacity: 77.481% technology: lithium-ion
Kollin ( 2014-12-15 18:48:32 +0200 )editanswered 2015-02-19 16:08:07 +0200
WARNING!!! What is see on batteries images posted here is that many (all?) of them has maximum (charging) voltage 4.2V and Jolla phone uses so called high-voltage batteries with charging voltage 4.35V. I am not sure safety circuit can distinguish normal-voltage battery and use lower charging target voltage for it. So, it can just be very dangerous to charge normal voltage batteries with Jolla phone.
answered 2014-12-02 11:08:17 +0200
Standard Jolla battery is 2100mAh but the tutorial is very cool. Thank you
batteries are not magical, but since they recently held croudfunding campaign, the most probable guess - THEY JUST DON"T HAVE ANY SPARABLE MONEY to make more batteries. All the money they got from investors went to make actual phones! And all the money they made went to pay back investors and sallaries etc, so they just don't have any money! Just that simple! And holding a croudfunding campaigh for batteries... well i just think it will not look that good for their image probably... who knows:)
virgi26 ( 2014-12-14 15:00:34 +0200 )editanswered 2015-02-19 15:35:29 +0200
Has anyone of you using this compatible spare battery noticed that the "reboot-" or "shutting-down"-issue that a lot of users complain about disappeares or is affected in any other way? I mean: can we get rid off this bug by using those 3rd party batteries?
temperature could be that problem 'soft' batery
you need voltage and power of ampers
if you use crapy battery wich doesnt provide enought voltage than much more ampers device needs for running
I Do not recommend to use any cheap battery, it could rly explode, bump, smoke fire i have seen a lot and its not fun while you sleeping and charging. its almst crazy to save few coins and risk all above.
pan tau ( 2015-02-20 15:03:04 +0200 )editanswered 2015-01-08 12:55:04 +0200
I bought this battery charger from ebay, but it's very slow! Charging the original Jolla battery took 12 hours. it's like watching paint dry, but it does the job. It also has usb port for phone charging - also very slow.
Asked: 2014-12-01 22:31:13 +0200
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Thanks man! :)
Regards,
Spam Hunter ( 2014-12-01 22:37:12 +0200 )editcan we have a semi official comment?
fotis ( 2014-12-01 22:48:31 +0200 )editwo hoo. gonna try, thanks!
mosen ( 2014-12-01 22:56:27 +0200 )editWhat's amazing is that it wits so well even as it is so much shorter!
Pretty neat trick, that :)
juiceme ( 2014-12-01 23:02:30 +0200 )editThanks kollin, that's very useful. Have you checked if the battery has really 1800 mAh?
Fellfrosch ( 2014-12-01 23:39:32 +0200 )edit