@N900-users: missed features from N900/N9(50)?

asked 2015-02-03 15:19:50 +0200

M.Bln.
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updated 2015-02-08 23:13:12 +0200

I personally did not have a MeeGo N900-series phone. But I've heard that people love(d) that phone and its functions.

Because MeeGo and Sailfish are "OS-sisters" it should not be too difficult to port functions or apps from N900. So here are my questions to YOU and maybe requests to Jolla...

What function did the N900 have that isn't implemented in Sailfish yet?
What function do you miss most? ...even if not fully functional in N900 phone.
What connection possibilities do you miss? e.g. sync-tools.

Beside my curiousity my hope is to help Jolla developing faster/easier by forking beloved N900-functions. Therefore we need to know from you N900-users what IS missed. :-)

(State only one function per answer so voting is easier)

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N900 run Maemo, not MeeGo, Jolla is SailFishOS, there are many s/w and h/w differences, for example different screen technologies almost dictate different type of apps, etc.

pmelas ( 2015-02-03 16:05:09 +0200 )edit

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Python, in the default distribution.

rdmo ( 2015-02-03 16:13:52 +0200 )edit

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SWYPE.

'nuff said.

Lutwolf ( 2015-02-03 16:15:21 +0200 )edit

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IMO, this is a very subjective question and its been already covered in separate threads. I feel, its not like Jolla team doesn't know what needs to be implemented. The constraint is time and limited resources.

anandrkris ( 2015-02-03 16:18:24 +0200 )edit

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SailfishOS is not meego/maemo brother/sister. It contains some legacy meego/maemo mw stuff, but not too much.

@rdmo python is already here for ages

coderus ( 2015-02-03 17:14:55 +0200 )edit

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answered 2015-02-03 17:55:57 +0200

Damien Caliste
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The text search hability. It is quite linked to the physical keyboard, but typing some part of a word and having a long list filtered out (in emails or in SMS history…), or the contact search that opens, is really handy.

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answered 2015-02-03 18:08:44 +0200

Louis

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It's hard to compare N900 with the Jolla Phone. While I loved the desktop experience from N900 I think Jolla does a great job making a modernized mobile OS with some desktop features like real multitasking, hackable Linux base and an open bootloader.

The features I miss from Maemo 5 (N900) and MeeGo Harmattan (N9 & N950) are full support for IM services under Messages like Facebook and Skype. I know Skype might not be possible do to needed MS license, but Facebook should be possible to implement. I saw I video with native Facebook integration in SailfishOS on Youtube. I saw before the release of the Jolla phone and was mostly likely taken out before release.

Landscape support and a psychical keyboard. Landscape support will mostly likely come with the tablet-optimized SailfishOS 2.0 and a keyboard toh has been made by the community.

Message threads and browser tabs to open in separate windows. This was some features I really liked on my N900. I could easily communicate with many people at the same time do to message threads which opened in separate windows. Also with browser tabs opened in separate windows it was easy to multitask.

Support for X window appps and X forwarding over SSH both from and to device. This was easy if a wanted to use a remote X app for a reason.

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answered 2015-02-19 17:17:39 +0200

gilou3000
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If I remember correctly from my N900:

Bluetooth file transfer (of every file type)
keyboard
widgets
skype integration
lens cover
multiple desktop screen
- basic applications (from nokia) were much better. This one make me angry: Jolla YOU HAVE to make your APPS less basic!!!

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answered 2015-02-04 07:51:57 +0200

jcoder
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updated 2015-02-04 07:53:54 +0200

Hardware: The IrDA port. I wish it would be provided by a TOH or nextgen Jolla devices would implement it as a standard feature. So I could use my Jolla as a remote control.

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Just to be pedantic, the N900 only has commercial IR, not IrDA (and only transmits CIR, it can't receive signals). But yeah, I'd love to see an IR port on a Sailfish device. I started a Sailfish version of Pierogi, but stopped work when I realized that the hardware isn't out there, and won't be for some time to come... (Nobody's done a CIR OH yet either.)

Copernicus ( 2015-02-05 04:09:35 +0200 )edit

That would be very nice indeed. So my idea for the-other-half-of-your-dreams is this:
keyboard + e-paper backside + IR-sender

https://together.jolla.com/question/17129/poll-the-other-half-of-your-dreams/?answer=76575#post-id-76575

M.Bln. ( 2015-02-05 23:26:30 +0200 )edit

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answered 2015-02-05 00:36:55 +0200

JollamboRDD
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HI,

I'm still using N900, N9 and jolla

basically I missed the second slide and third slice of N9, The second slide mean all the active Apps are in one place and the third slide where we can scroll through all active event and notification. if Jolla bring to current Jolla (Via software update) or next gen Jolla would be more great

On N9 I used to use RSS feeder. but in Jolla we has to have separate RSS app in order to check news. One more thing is the home screen on N9 is very fluid and it doesn't go slide by slide as Jolla do. It will scroll freely and it was very convenient to select app where your thumb is, needn't to stretch all the way up to and to the bottom as we do on Jolla now.

On N900 we able to edit Connection's APN where Jolla doesn't allow us to do that.

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You can edit the APN on the Jolla too, it's just that the option is invisible. See this question (and vote for it so that the feature stops being invisible!): https://together.jolla.com/question/25434/indication-to-hint-that-a-context-menu-is-available/

00prometheus ( 2015-02-22 18:16:47 +0200 )edit

Yes, I found that. Wow yahoo !!! Thank you so much. N900 , N9 and Jolla (they are the best of the best). Glad I own three of them.

JollamboRDD ( 2015-04-07 23:01:07 +0200 )edit

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answered 2015-02-03 17:50:17 +0200

johanh
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I don't have a Jolla yet. I will buy a Jolla when I receive my TOHKBD (https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/2028347278/tohkbd-the-other-half-keyboard-for-your-jolla). I hope I can continue to use the shell prompt. File system and documents are important. Being able to install your own applications, e.g. ported from another platform, both command line and GUI applications. On the N900 I use mostly browser, FBReader, Keepass and shell.

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Yeah you could use devel-su to get a root shell after enabling the developer mode on Jolla. You could also install packages, instead of #apt-get install you have the fedora's #pkcon install

pavi ( 2015-02-03 23:17:40 +0200 )edit

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answered 2015-02-19 10:37:40 +0200

reinouts
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The email app on my N900 let me listen to voicemails in mp3 attachments. My Jolla still doesn't. :-|

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answered 2015-02-19 14:56:03 +0200

shellkr
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Surprised no one mentioned it yet.. but I miss the Desktop Command Execution Widget(http://wiki.maemo.org/Desktop_Command_Execution_Widget_scripts) as it made it easy to show whatever I wanted on the homescreen. I also miss the custom kernels which offered an easy way to overclock the n900 to perform better.

Desktop Command Execution Widget
Overclockable kernels

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A request for something similar to the desktop command execution widget was made earlier (http://together.jolla.com/question/29226/app-request-command-line-outputs-on-a-customizable-cover/). Unfortunately it didn't generate enough interest. However, ShellEx app by @Acce comes closer.

User ( 2015-04-14 18:49:37 +0200 )edit

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answered 2015-04-07 23:08:25 +0200

JollamboRDD
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N900 uses the MMC for store camera pictures & videos, installed apps and literally for everything. But Jolla does not do that as far as know. My Jolla uses it's phone memory for images/video (shoot or taken from Camera) and it's installed almost all the android apps in phone memory.

I don't know how tweak the setting. This is what I mainly missed from N900.

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answered 2015-02-19 02:04:40 +0200

dmnk

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http://www.dmnk.org/

from N9 (E72 and so on...): the systemwide search.

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